[DB]

Personally I think we should quietly take out their submarines in deep water. Leave no time for any reports back home. They simply disappear never to be heard from again. Old Russian subs and all...

Problem solved.

[Randy Papadoo]

Yep, but in due time. Those subs and those missles are crap. 200km range....pfffftt!

They will be nada to our subs and be taken out quickly. I guess it's a bad sign of things to come, perhaps, but this is nuttin' (regional threat only, and well within region's defenses).

This is so minimal, I occurs to me that maybe Russia told us, or that we don't even care at this point, except to keep track.

Even nuked up, the subs are still only a regional threat, and somehow I think their "threat" is more to Iran than anyone else. (In that, at some point, we're going to step on Iran's nasty atomic throat.)

[NonValueAdded]

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[WakeUpAndVote]

I always wondered about submarine warfare. Although the Germans did wolf packs in WW2, the did not work in tandem with each other.

The way to nail a surface ship for a quick sink would be to fire from two points at once. The structural stress to the ship from getting hit both port and starboard within a few seconds of each other should crack the hull wide open. No time to radio out.

As for under sea, you are correct. Lay on the bottom and wait.

[tractorman]

I think we should wait for the multi-million dollar refurbishments to be completed and then sink them.