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Durbin's Response to my Letter (His Defense of Gitmo Comments)
Offices of Dick Durbin | July 5, 2005 | Dick Durbin (Sen, D-ILL)

Posted on 07/05/2005 12:15:48 PM PDT by minc3d

July 5, 2005

Dear Mr. Derrick W:

Thank you for your recent message.

On June 14, I spoke on the Senate floor about my heartfelt concern regarding the treatment of prisoners and detainees at Guantanamo and in other places. I noted that many others, including former Secretary of State Colin Powell, have raised legitimate concerns about whether the policies of this Administration are truly making us safer and whether some of those policies might tarnish America's image around the world and jeopardize our soldiers.

During that speech, I read an account from an FBI agent describing the mistreatment of prisoners at Guantanamo, including situations in which detainees were chained hand and foot in a fetal position on the floor, with no chair and no food or water for 18-24 hours or more, and subjected to extreme temperature variation that left them shaking with cold or nearly unconscious due to heat.

I then made a characterization of that agent's account using what I now know, in retrospect, was a very poor choice of words. It was not my intention to disparage our soldiers. It was not my intention to diminish the horrific history of torture and death inflicted by murderous regimes of the past. My intention was only to raise legitimate questions about the policies of this Administration which add to the risks our soldiers face.

My words were twisted and misrepresented by some who sought to gain a political advantage, but they also hurt some people who were sympathetic to my message. And the firestorm surrounding my words obscured that message. I did not want to leave any misunderstanding, so I returned to the Senate floor on June 21 and apologized for the characterization that had caused offense for many good-hearted Americans.

Our troops around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration, and total support. I have seen our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I am humbled by their courage and the sacrifices they are making. I have visited Walter Reed Hospital many times and spoken with young soldiers who have suffered horrific injuries in this war. I have spoken with and met with the families of those who have given their lives in service to our nation. They are the best our nation has to offer and I never intended any disrespect toward them.

I believe that America is a shining beacon for freedom and human dignity in this world. When we fall short of our own standards, saying so enhances our moral standing. I will continue to speak out on the issues I think are important to the people of Illinois and the nation, including the issue of torture and the mistreatment of prisoners in American detention centers.

The Administration's policies regarding these abuses are not only inconsistent with the moral values our nation stands for, they risk increasing the danger to our own soldiers. When we hold ourselves to the highest standards of civilized behavior, rather than lowering ourselves to the standards of our enemies, I believe it makes our troops safer, and our nation more secure. And that is a goal I hope we can all agree on. Sincerely, Richard J. Durbin


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This is what Mr. Durbin emailed me as a response to a letter I sent to him about his vile comments about our US soldiers in Gitmo. Looks like he has a little time on his hands.... Anyway, I wanted all to see what he had to say for himself. Have fun reading his defense!
1 posted on 07/05/2005 12:15:50 PM PDT by minc3d
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To: minc3d
My words were twisted and misrepresented by some who sought to gain a political advantage

Sounds to me like he's still not fully repentant.

2 posted on 07/05/2005 12:19:40 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: minc3d
...but they also hurt some people who were sympathetic to my message.

Yeah, like Rich Daley who you were afraid was going to have YOU hurt if you didn't apologize.

Durbin makes me sick. I think he has just stacks and stacks of blank apology letters laying around his office.

"I am sorry that my words on ______________ regarding _______ may have upset you..."

3 posted on 07/05/2005 12:21:03 PM PDT by retrokitten (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: minc3d
Translations: "I said stupid and hurtful things, and people were outraged by it. And they blamed me for it! sniff!"

He shoulda been force-fed a midol.

4 posted on 07/05/2005 12:21:07 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: theDentist
My words were twisted and misrepresented by some who sought to gain a political advantage

THE HELL THEY WERE!

5 posted on 07/05/2005 12:22:48 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: minc3d
IMHO: anyone who is willing to kill women, children, and civilians and blow themselves in the process are not human but are animals and should be treated accordingly.

They (the terrorists and their supporters) can't have it both ways: scream civility and then murder like animals.
6 posted on 07/05/2005 12:24:08 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: minc3d

This is an example of how out of touch they are. They think that making horric (and long stretched) comparisons at the troop level will reflect poorly on the president. Why does he think and the media allow people to think that George Bush's policy is to leave an uncooperative prisoner without food or water for 24 hours in an uncomfortable room. It is a military thing and quite frankly doesn't turn my stomach one iota. I don't think it is torcher. Our special ops folks train in worse conditions.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 12:27:24 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: minc3d
The Administration's policies regarding these abuses are not only inconsistent with the moral values our nation stands for, they risk increasing the danger to our own soldiers.

Where are these 'policies' documented, Mr Durbin? Can I have a copy? What, the policies you're talking about don't exist? So, since you have no proof upon which to blame this on the 'Administration', tell me again, Mr. Durbin, how you can say you weren't out to disparage our Excellent and Worthy Soldiers.

8 posted on 07/05/2005 12:29:04 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: Puppage
Hey Dick!

Do you say what you mean, or do you mean what you say?

9 posted on 07/05/2005 12:30:07 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: minc3d
apologized for the characterization that had caused offense for many good-hearted Americans

He apologized for the characterization? LMAO
10 posted on 07/05/2005 12:32:36 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: dhs12345

Why anyone would have "heartfelt concern" over the treatment of detainees is beyond me. Can you imagine if a US senator had made a statement like this about Japanese or Nazi POWs held by Americans in WW2??


11 posted on 07/05/2005 12:33:09 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Family Guy

Where are these 'policies' documented, Mr Durbin? Can I have a copy? What, the policies you're talking about don't exist? So, since you have no proof upon which to blame this on the 'Administration', tell me again, Mr. Durbin, how you can say you weren't out to disparage our Excellent and Worthy Soldiers.



That is what I meant to say.


12 posted on 07/05/2005 12:33:11 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: TNCMAXQ

Makes you wonder if we would have won WWII with these statements and attitude from approximately half of the government.

Times certainly have changed. Then again, we are talking about modern Democrats.


13 posted on 07/05/2005 12:38:54 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: minc3d
The good news about all of this is that DICK Dustbin will now not ever be a viable Veep candidate...the Senate is as far as he'll ever go in politics...his treasonous remarks will never allow him to get votes in the South. :)
14 posted on 07/05/2005 12:49:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: minc3d

Isn't that almost word for word the floor apology?


15 posted on 07/05/2005 12:53:43 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: minc3d

Isn't that almost word for word the floor apology?


16 posted on 07/05/2005 12:53:44 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: minc3d
"My words were twisted and misrepresented by some who sought to gain a political advantage, but they also hurt some people who were sympathetic to my message."

The italicized portion seems inconsistent with the prior portion of that sentence. If his words were only "twisted and misrepresented," then why would they be hurtful to his supporters?

To me it's interesting that he says they were hurtful to SOME people who were sympathetic to his message. Apparently, the rest of his supporters had no problem with him calling our troops Nazis.

17 posted on 07/05/2005 12:58:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: minc3d
"The Administration's policies regarding these abuses are not only inconsistent with the moral values our nation stands for, they risk increasing the danger to our own soldiers. When we hold ourselves to the highest standards of civilized behavior, rather than lowering ourselves to the standards of our enemies, I believe it makes our troops safer, and our nation more secure."

Yeah, our troops are a lot safer now that you've popularized the notion that they are like Nazis, Stalinists, and Kmer Rouge guerillas.

This guy just rubs more salt in the wounds, doesn't he? Not contrite enough, if you ask me.

After calling our troops Nazis, he now says that they are lowering our standards to the level of the enemy.

18 posted on 07/05/2005 1:03:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: minc3d

"My words were twisted..."

No they weren't, Dick. They were quoted.


19 posted on 07/05/2005 1:05:13 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: minc3d

Odd! I just got a response from my e-mail to Obama. I had asked Obama to stand up and speak out against his senior senator. Here's his canned reply.



Dear My Name:

Thank you for contacting me about comments made by Senator Durbin in reference to the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo. I appreciate having the benefit of your perspective on this issue and fully understand your concern.
I know this recent episode has pained Senator Durbin a great deal. And I recognize that each and every one of us is going to make a mistake once in a while or say something that doesn't appropriately describe what we meant. What we hope is that our track record of service will override whatever particular mistake we make.
I believe Senator Durbin has established himself as someone who cares deeply about our veterans and our troops, and I am grateful he had the courage to stand up on the Senate floor and acknowledge that he should have said what he meant differently. I accept the sincerity of his apology, and I note that other senators, including Sen. John McCain who was critical of Sen. Durbin's initial remarks but who applauded him for making "a heartfelt statement, one of apology," and said before the full Senate that Senator Durbin "did the right thing, the courageous thing and I believe we can put this issue behind us." I agree with Senator McCain's advice.
Thank you again for contacting me.


Sincerely,

Barack Obama
United States Senator


20 posted on 07/05/2005 1:22:01 PM PDT by IL Republican
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