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To: mnehrling
What will probably happen in this hacking case is that his lawyer will plea bargain down to a single felony for electronic intrusion, maybe getting the government to drop the avalanche of wire fraud charges.

He'll get 9 months or so confinement and be ordered to pay some restitution to ProtestWarrior. The short time in the clink will be to establish felony incarceration in case this fellow does something similar in the future. His parole will be long with terms including a heavy suspended sentence and the occasional FBI 'interview' to see what he's up to. He'll see invisible G-men behind him every time a shadow moves in his darkened room, which is just what the FBI cybercrimes department wants.

I'm no lawyer -- just seen what has happened in similar cases. Guys that think they're 'master hackers', ain't. The Feds can catch you quick as hell.

Let's come back in a couple of months and see what happens to this schmuck.

58 posted on 07/05/2005 9:14:15 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
What will probably happen in this hacking case is that his lawyer will plea bargain down to a single felony for electronic intrusion, maybe getting the government to drop the avalanche of wire fraud charges.

In a non-war time, I'd tend to agree with you. However, this "hacking" toggles the Patriot and Homeland flags. You might be right -- that this is how the judge will rule; But after that the dude may be Federal "material".

101 posted on 07/05/2005 9:48:07 AM PDT by Alia
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To: The KG9 Kid
I think you're pretty much on target, with the exception of the jail sentence. Odds are he won't be cooperative with the investigators, and they'll look for at least a four year jail trip for the young gentleman.

I love his careful wording... 'no cards were billed..' Not charged, billed. In other words, he successfully submitted them for charges but because the folks at ProtestWarrior went to their efforts, all that happened was that some leftie site got a bunch of chargebacks.

Gosh, it just gets better and better. Won't it be wonderful if the investigation pulls up members of those leftist sites who knowingly have accepted stolen credit cards?

Jeremy should go find a singing coach and sing his heart out if he doesn't want to end up in the slammer for a few years.
200 posted on 07/05/2005 6:22:04 PM PDT by kingu
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