[HairOfTheDog]

And altho I do beleive people who don't want children because of the "sacrfice" they would have to make are very selfish people I do admire them for having the courage to admit it, and do feel sorry for them because they just don't understand that not having children is a bigger, true sacrifice then having them. They must be sad shallow people to not be able to love without viewing it as a sacrifice.

It's a more complex decision than simple shallowness unwillingness to sacrifice, but ecurbh and I are not trying to have children right now. There are lots of issues rolling around that affect this decision, and who knows what the future brings, but I don't think we'll have kids. At least not an infant of our own, we started pretty late. And we want to spend this time able to go on trail rides. ;~D

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I understand alot of issues go into making a decision to have/not have children.

My post read "people who do not have children because of the "sacrifice" they would have to make.

I'm speaking of the people who do not want to give up "anything" who consider having children "giving up freedom/stuff/time" Yes, children change your life alot, but to view that change as having to "give up" or sacrifice, is sad, and yes selfish, IMO. What about the gains that come. Children will pretty much love their parents unconditionally. Where else can you get that? It's a wonderful gift.

Becky