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More backlash (albeit limp-wristed) against the "War on Males" sponsored and egged-on by feminists.
1 posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:58 AM PDT by Bon mots
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2 posted on 07/05/2005 5:32:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Bon mots

The author is whining.


4 posted on 07/05/2005 5:38:25 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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The reason marriage is waning is the women's movement. The traditional family structure is just not compatible with a society in which every woman works in the market place.


5 posted on 07/05/2005 5:39:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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The basic, simple, biological reality is that women need to be having children when they're 18 - 25 and not when they're 30-45, and they need to be able to do that without having to marry men who are ten years older than they are. If our society is going to survive, that has to become possible again. What we're doing now clearly does not work.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 5:40:55 AM PDT by tahotdog
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Mulims had it figured out long ago. Marry, marry, marry, and have kids lots of them, have even four wives if you can, and this way they can over populate the world, and this is exactly what they are doing. Other countries have been told by their own governments that the world is getting over populated, and so what do we do? We have less children, while undesirables come into our county and try to destroy the American way of life.

We will be the losers if we do not honor marriage. Same sex marriage only insures our destruction, and our sure path to Sodom. We will deserve what ever comes to us, and it surely will.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 5:41:57 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: Bon mots

Why not also blame the fact that a lot of things change with the passing of time?


9 posted on 07/05/2005 5:42:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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I wonder, though, if there is another possible explanation: that, frankly, a lot of women do not like men very much, and vice versa? And that, given the choice, a lot of women and men would prefer an adequate supply of casual nookie to a lifelong relationship with a member of the opposite sex?

These questions beg the central question, which is, Why should marriage be saved?

Marriage should be saved because it is the natural institution through which new members of society are born, raised and formed. It is in the best (and natural) interest of children to be raised by their natural parents, parents who have committed themselves to each other for life.

Natural marriage also serves an important secondary purpose, in channeling sexuality in a way most beneficial to individuals and society in general.

So marriage should be saved. And the greatest threat to marriage today is the widespread opinion that marriage should serve individual needs only. Marriage has become for many a means of self-actualization rather than self-sacrifice.

11 posted on 07/05/2005 5:47:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Women are now the breadwinners and should be treated as such, as breadwinners used to be treated. Now that women outnumber men in college, in law school, in densitry, in vetinarian school, in grad school, and finally in medical school, educated women of the future will not only be the breadwinners, but will vastly out earn what uneducated unskilled men will be able to earn, esp after all the factories disappear.

When the male female earning power drastically changes into being lopsided the other way, with women outearning men the way men used to outearn women in the 1950's, a basic flip flop of roles would be expected, and certainly after womens "time" becomes worth so much more than mens time, women will have to give up all the menial unpaid tasks that they used to do - esp around the house.

12 posted on 07/05/2005 5:48:23 AM PDT by SandyB
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men needed women to cook and clean for them while women needed men to bring home the bacon

Higher educated/higher paid women of the future will need men to cook and clean for them.

13 posted on 07/05/2005 5:49:43 AM PDT by SandyB
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As soon as feminists stop telling little suzy to put away that vile toy stove, and pick up a toy jack hammer, and the gays stop telling little bobby that it's just dandy to wear pink sweaters and frollic with the boys, marriage will enjoy the same natural pervasiveness it did before feminism and the gay & lesbian agenda.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 5:49:53 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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booked


16 posted on 07/05/2005 5:52:09 AM PDT by since1868
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Marriage has become financial union based on the females emotions only because the man has no say in the program lest he sued for divorce and his life be ruined for ever.
Liza do you take this man for better are worse. I'll tell you what parson, If it's not better for me it will be worse for him.


17 posted on 07/05/2005 5:59:19 AM PDT by Judge Roy
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>>>But whose fault is that? If you treat all men as selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbags, you should not be surprised if that is what they turn out to be.>>>

Whine: It's not my fault I'm a selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbag!! It's the woman's fault because she thinks I am!!

Maybe if men (not all mind you) stopped ACTING like that, women would stop treating them like that. How about that?


18 posted on 07/05/2005 5:59:38 AM PDT by sandbar
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This trend is partly a result of the fact that baby boomers are a spoiled, self-obsessed bunch of brats (and I say that as one of them). Parents deprived during the Great Depression and WWII spoiled their kids rotten.

It may take a couple of generations and may already be happening that young people are themselves determined not to have children, then divorce like their parents did, but instead want their marriages to last. That's partly the reason why young adults are waiting longer to get married and have children.

My two cents....


22 posted on 07/05/2005 6:04:58 AM PDT by randita
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I didn't read the whole article. This sentence stopped me:

People are a lot less willing to sacrifice their independent lifestyle

GGGRRRRRRRRR. Well no wonder no one wants to get married with this attitude. "SACRIFICE"

I had a conversation with a friend the other day about having children. He viewed having children as "giving up you freedom". This attitude astounds me. No doubt, getting married, and havinhg children change a persons lifestyle. But to view those changes as "sacrifice" and "giving up freedoms" is, IMO, a truly selfish, horrible attitude. And to go around saying things like that were young people hear it is what is turning them off to having a family. Why not speak of the wonderful gains of having a family rather then talking about so called sacrifices.

Becky

28 posted on 07/05/2005 6:17:33 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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to learn the other day, the proportion of children born outside marriage has shot up from 9 per cent to 42 per cent since 1976. In France, the proportion is 44 per cent, in Sweden, it is 56 per cent and even in the US, with its religious emphasis on family values, it is 35 per cent.

This raises a fascinating question, since the U.S. appears still to be on the trailing edge of change. Taking Sweden as the "leader", if you'll pardon the expression, the US is at 38% less, 21% less than France, and 17% less than Britain.

But this is deceptive, because some demographic groups tend to breed more bastards than others and a different breakdown might be more useful.

In other words, the U.S. may be in much better shape than it appears, or worse, depending on your point of view.

29 posted on 07/05/2005 6:17:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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This must be a male thread. ummm, errrr guys don't mean to give you a curve ball, but the name of the author is a 'male' one.

The break down is marriage is due to more than just women not changing. Women do suffer economically after the marriage ends. Many women are single moms, and usually with jobs which pay less than the males.

To blame everything on the the changing of the male roll and not being 'needed' to bring home the bacon, is taking the easy way out. A friend I had lunch, told of her 'religious' hubby coming home from work, stating divorce was nothing all the 'men' do it, (not sure where this guys religion, probably in his butt).

The truth is marriages are braking down because they are not valued in society. People believe what they read, all they hear from the friends, and yes, even sometimes 'bad' advise from 'not well intended' family members.

There was an article which I came across, it stated something about people were never inteneded to live as long as they do, more divorces will happpen in older years, because of a longer life span. Well, now people will read that and believe this also. Another excuse.

Truth is it is because as an American society we do not value marriage (yep, even many religious dudes give lip service on this, and I do mean 'lip service'). America is about money, self centerness. ( this gives control freaks added fuel to a marriage brake down) It is nothing for people to have two, three and even four spouses in America (at seperate times, I laugh when these people say look at those men in the middle east, I usually think to myself, heck bud, at least they are still with him, and he's supporting them, you have had the same number yourself).(((that statement will make a lot of people angry, it is stated to make ya angry, and to make you think!!!!))))) And no I am not for polygamy, and not for serial polygamy, oh, sorry, think that is call serial monogamy.

It is not just about women changing, it is about the American society will all the lip service of 'families' the reality is it is not, the values among it's people is money and self interest focused. can't let the fellow males wimp out blaiming it on the 'little woman', it is more complex a problem than that.
30 posted on 07/05/2005 6:19:19 AM PDT by digitalman
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You mean the only thing that isn't Bush's fault is a woman's fault? Figures! ;)


32 posted on 07/05/2005 6:32:06 AM PDT by Chgogal ("Congressmen who willfully...during war...damage moral...should be arrested, exiled or..." Lincoln)
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she said an important principle was that "husbands have to respond positively to their wives' request for change" - for example, addressing the anomaly that women tend to do the larger share of the housework.

"She said" is a very revealing part of that statement, for therein lies the fallacy that there is any unfairness.

My experince has been that, in fact, the women do a disproportionate amount of the work around a household, but a moot point has always been that they also "invent" a much more disproportionate percentage of the " must do list": a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Are necessary" and "I decided it must be done" are two entirely different things.
e.g. "I decided to install chintzy dust-collecting ugly curtains on every opening in the house, including the chimney!"

33 posted on 07/05/2005 6:34:09 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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mark


39 posted on 07/05/2005 6:40:17 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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