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Human remains found in Idaho (Dylan Groene)

Posted on 07/04/2005 2:03:28 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: mugs99
We could simply sentence them to death, but not carry out the sentence. That would stop the opposition to capital punishment and leave open the possibility of release for those who are later found innocent. Dead man walking to the day you die sounds like a good punishment. No visits from family or friends or communication with the outside world...You are legally deceased.

Didn't turn out to be so complicated after all.

Thanks for pointing it out. ...

121 posted on 07/04/2005 4:49:56 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: darkangel82
That's why there's life without parole, although that's what all "life" sentences should be.

All "life" sentences once were. Indeterminate sentences were used to sentence someone who could be paroled at a later date. Example: 15 years to life.
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122 posted on 07/04/2005 4:50:06 PM PDT by mugs99
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To: kcvl

Oh, please God, let them be old remains. Please let them not be Dylan's. And please help Dylam come home.


123 posted on 07/04/2005 5:08:35 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: bitt
The ACLU is asking for a court to dismiss the case.

Well isn't that just special. Tells me all I need to knwo about the ACLU, as if I didn't before. NAMBLA is just a bunch of the sickest perverts looking to rationalize and legitimize their perversions, and tie it all up with a pretty ribbon given to them by the ACLU.

124 posted on 07/04/2005 5:11:25 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: SandRat; All

OHH How sadddd


125 posted on 07/04/2005 5:19:34 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: kcvl
This killer had already molested 2 little boys before killing this one, yet he's out on the street?
Are we still suppose to show "tolerance" toward this maniac?
126 posted on 07/04/2005 5:24:14 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: WVNan

I have wondered the same thing after reading about his lonliness...I certainly don't think he kept her alive because of an attack of conscience.


127 posted on 07/04/2005 5:51:29 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

That's because he HAS no conscience.


128 posted on 07/04/2005 6:01:55 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: bitt
Its almost amusing to watch the media turn themselves into pretzels to avoid using the term, HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR. The media use a generic clinical and detached sounding term like "pedophile". The term almost conjures up images of grandfatherly naughty old men doing the innocuous by trying to catch a glimpse of a niece's knickers. (A stern look and a "tsk tsk" would be sufficient punshiment.) The fact of the matter is, its the wrong sex (although b@$t@rds who prey on young girls should castrated with a rusty set of tin snips) and a HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR is not benign and not grandfatherly. He is an incurable sick beast that should be publically put down like the rabid dog he is.
129 posted on 07/04/2005 6:12:05 PM PDT by pyx (Rule #1. The LEFT lies. Rule #2. See Rule #1.)
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To: FreePaul

What about the prosecutor that only asked for $25,000 bail? That seems low if they knew this guy was a sex offender. I would think it would be the responsibility of the prosecutor in this case to use the information this guy was a sex offender to get the bail a lot higher then $25,000. Put up $2500 and get out of jail free -- skipping bail means nothing to someone like this.

Personally the justice system seems to have failed all along the way and now most of a family has been murdered because of the incompetence of people that are placed to positions to protect the public.


130 posted on 07/04/2005 7:17:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: pyx

'Its almost amusing to watch the media turn themselves into pretzels to avoid using the term, HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR'

YA, just like they loved to crank on the catholic priest scandals, but refused to ever denounce 'homosexual' behaviors inflicted upon those children....


131 posted on 07/04/2005 9:28:24 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Jazzman1

I agree.........


132 posted on 07/04/2005 9:34:18 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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Bump for later


133 posted on 07/05/2005 6:13:15 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: PhiKapMom
...because of the incompetence of people that are placed to positions to protect the public.

I used to think that protecting the public was a duty of law enforcement and our so called justice system. That is no longer the case. According to our Supreme Court the police are not required to protect anyone even if there is a restraining order against the agressor. I'm sure that this would be extended to any and all others in our bureaucratic elite.

Yes, twenty-five thousand dollars is a very small amount for bail in this kind of case. If there were some kind of real control of those out on bail it would be different. The problem, of course, is that there is no system for making sure that these people live up to any terms imposed on them as a condition for getting out on bail. If they don't comply their names are added to a list. If they are caught committing other crimes they may be arrested for violating the conditions of bail. Then again, they may not be arrested so they can go on committing crimes.

134 posted on 07/05/2005 6:17:14 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: mugs99
No visits from family or friends or communication with the outside world...You are legally deceased.

I have never understood how they allow CONVICTED criminals - on death row - get *married* in prison!! They should lose all priviledges and I can just imagine the ACLU lawyer that fought for them to be allowed "rights".....

135 posted on 07/05/2005 9:06:25 AM PDT by Momto2
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To: PhiKapMom

Have you seen the name of the prosecutor posted anywhere? I would be interested in his politics/background. Could be just lazy and sloppy work, though... but he should be exposed and have to account for this incompetence!!!


136 posted on 07/05/2005 9:09:26 AM PDT by Momto2
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife
his previous victims were male so I would assume that he'd prefer to keep the boy and get rid of the girl.

It's strange, isn't it? Perhaps the little boy fought back like a tiger, and got himself killed in a fight. Maybe the perve drugged him to get him to "cooperate" and gave him an overdose. Why he kept Shasta is a mystery....perhaps he abused her too, but she was docile. The film taken by a convenience store security camera the day before they were caught shows Shasta walking around like a Zombie, arms folded over her chest, looking up into strangers' eyes but saying nothing. She's been terribly traumatized by this freak.

137 posted on 07/05/2005 9:15:07 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: PhiKapMom
Just found this:

Last July, he was accused of molesting a 6-year-old boy at a school playground in Minnesota. He had been released by Becker County, Minn., authorities in April on $15,000 bond and ordered to stay in touch with a probation agent. In May, authorities said they were seeking Duncan on a warrant after he failed to do so. Becker County Attorney Joseph Evans did not immediately return a call Saturday seeking comment. Minnesota has moved to crack down on sex offenders since the slaying of college student Dru Sjodin across the state line in North Dakota. A sex offender from Minnesota is accused in the slaying.

138 posted on 07/05/2005 9:17:21 AM PDT by Momto2
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To: i_dont_chat

All poor Shasta knows is she wanted to see her Daddy, her Mom & her boyfriend exploded (in anger), then everybody died and she got taken away, then Dylan went away (she probably knows he's dead, of course), and now she's with her daddy. What a mess. And she didn't look like a very happy little girl to begin with. :(


139 posted on 07/05/2005 9:21:45 AM PDT by johnb838 (I know S.p.e.c.t.r.e. and the truth is not in him.)
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To: All
If anyone would like to let the attorney know they think about his outrageous behavior - Here is his contact info:

jaevans@co.becker.mn.us

Phone:218-847-6590

140 posted on 07/05/2005 9:22:14 AM PDT by Momto2
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