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Orwellian Criminal-JusticeThink > He grabbed girl's arm -- now he's a sex offender
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 1, 2005 | Steve Patterson

Posted on 07/04/2005 10:26:38 AM PDT by AWestCoaster

Fitzroy Barnaby said he had to swerve to avoid hitting the 14-year-old Des Plaines girl who walked in front of his car.

She said he yelled, "Come here, little girl," before getting out of his car and grabbing her by the arm. He said he simply lectured her. She said she broke free and ran, fearful of what he'd do next.

In a Thursday ruling, the Appellate Court of Illinois said the 28-year-old Evanston man must register as a sex offender. While acknowledging it might be "unfair for [Barnaby] to suffer the stigmatization of being labeled a sex offender when his crime was not sexually motivated," the court said his actions are the type that are "often a precursor" to a child being abducted or molested.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 1984; court; judiciary; ruling; sexoffender
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To: facedown

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21 posted on 07/04/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by sistergoldenhair
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...a sex offender when his crime was not sexually motivated...he was convicted of unlawful restraint of a minor -- which is a sex offense.

Catch-22 written all over it.

22 posted on 07/04/2005 10:51:16 AM PDT by AWestCoaster (Bush/Congress - CLOSE BORDER! ! Either your for us, or against us.)
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To: Clara Lou

That's what I was thinking. However, wouldn't it need to go to the Illinois State Supreme Court first?


23 posted on 07/04/2005 10:51:59 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yeah, he was really going to teach her some manners there. My B.S. meter is off the chart.

Looking to make sure that it's safe before you cross the street has nothing to do with manners. It has to do with being careful and using some common sense, which might save your life some day. What the motorist did was what people used to do in the "good old days" when everybody looked out for each other's kids, and that sometimes included giving parental advice, even if it isn't your kid that you're lecturing to.

24 posted on 07/04/2005 10:58:28 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: newbeliever
I just watched the movie with Cruise in it. don't know the name but it was about "precrime."

Minority Report, from an original short story by Philip K. Dick

25 posted on 07/04/2005 11:00:39 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: AWestCoaster

His name sounds like a child molester. I think they would have let him go if his name had been Barnaby Fitzroy.


26 posted on 07/04/2005 11:01:03 AM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: AWestCoaster
Meanwhile serial pedophiles are being set free on bail to kill and rare.

Screw the US court system. Don't look to them for justice, protection or even the law. Learn to protect yourself and your loved ones.
27 posted on 07/04/2005 11:01:39 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: AWestCoaster
Unintended consequences.
It's a disease.

Soon we won't be able to distinguish between real violent rapists and a man accidentally stumbling into a female of any age.

Oh well. I'm not a female. What do I care?

28 posted on 07/04/2005 11:02:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Well, at least you picked the right nickname...


29 posted on 07/04/2005 11:04:30 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: 6SJ7

If you merge "minority report" with "gattica" you get a really accurate picture of where we are headed.

horrific days ahead with this kind of crap being all the 'rage' for the "governmental thought police".


30 posted on 07/04/2005 11:06:31 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Get your brand new 'penumbra and emanation' converter boxes, while they are on sale, hecho en china.)
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To: judgeandjury
Looking to make sure that it's safe before you cross the street has nothing to do with manners. It has to do with being careful and using some common sense, which might save your life some day. What the motorist did was what people used to do in the "good old days" when everybody looked out for each other's kids, and that sometimes included giving parental advice, even if it isn't your kid that you're lecturing to.

You nailed it. When I was growing up a few decades ago, I was lectured by strangers when I did something stupid. For all the leftist claims about "community" and "it takes a village", their policies have destroyed enormous parts of the community and made it impossible for a villager to assist in proper raising of a child.

31 posted on 07/04/2005 11:12:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: AWestCoaster
Recognizing the stigma that comes with being labeled as a sex offender, the appellate court said "it is [Barnaby's] actions which have caused him to be stigmatized, not the courts."

AKA "Look what he made us do."

32 posted on 07/04/2005 11:13:08 AM PDT by Grut
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To: AWestCoaster

bump


33 posted on 07/04/2005 11:13:19 AM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I was making an accurate observation, not a recommendation.

I have updated my FMCDH (From My Cold Dead Hands) sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the Marxist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government and the enormous tax burden placed upon the average American to support unconstitutional programs put forth by Marxist ideology.

I do not advocate revolution. I only think of what I foresee.

FMCDH(BITS)

34 posted on 07/04/2005 11:14:30 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Sorry, no sympathy for the guy here.

It doesn't matter how stupid the guy was. What matters is whether he is a sex offender or not since that is the punishment that was imposed. Are you arguing that he was actually inent on sexually abusing her and is therefore a sex offender and the punishment is just? If not, he deserves sympathy no matter how stupid he is.

35 posted on 07/04/2005 11:16:46 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: sandydipper

because the THOUGHT POLICE are now in control of our society. I think 18-25 year old men/women having sex with underage kids is a crime, but we are also lableing as sex offenders kids of the same age both under the age of consent, while letting too many staturtory rapes go unpunished. Unless there is something else in this sotry not a part of the record this is a travisty of justice.


36 posted on 07/04/2005 11:21:03 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: judgeandjury
What the motorist did was what people used to do in the "good old days" when everybody looked out for each other's kids

We're not in Kansas anymore are we Dorothy?

We live in a perverted, crime-ridden world where if you even glare at a kid the wrong way you'll get thrown in prison. Kids' innocence has totally been usurped. That's just the way it is now.

37 posted on 07/04/2005 11:26:50 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: FreedomCalls
Are you arguing that he was actually inent on sexually abusing her and is therefore a sex offender and the punishment is just?

If the guy would have continued on his way he wouldn't have to worry about registering as a sex offender. He didn't hit the girl, after all. So why the need to lecture? He's not the girl's daddy.

38 posted on 07/04/2005 11:30:08 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: AWestCoaster

The letter of the law versus the intent of the law. And activist judges on the bench. Recipe for legal insanity if ever there was one.


39 posted on 07/04/2005 11:40:47 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: oldbrowser

Agreed, that's what I was saying on another thread about sex crimes a few days ago. It makes it hard to get the real sex criminals punished as they need to be when taking a whiz in the park is considered a sex crime these days. Clean up the list, make sure only real offenders get on it, then deal with them harshly. What this guy did might not have been too bright in today's sue-happy, pc world, but it sure as hell wasn't a sex crime!


40 posted on 07/04/2005 11:42:47 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (I am so proud of what we were...)
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