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GOP's Sen. Chuck Hagel: 'We're a Bunch of Democrats'
newsmax ^ | July 4, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/04/2005 9:04:08 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Monday, July 4, 2005 10:48 a.m. EDT

GOP's Sen. Chuck Hagel: 'We're a Bunch of Democrats'

Thanks to GOP-backed spending policies, Republicans have transformed themselves into the Party across the aisle, an often dissident Republican senator says.

"In terms of the deficit, we have blown the top right off," charged Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb). "We're a bunch of Democrats."

In a wide-ranging interview with the New York Times, he responded to Deborah Solomon's remark that she had never heard anyone call President Bush a Democrat.

Hagel said "That's my point. We're less honest about it. We built the biggest government history has ever seen under a Republican government. The Democrats are better because they are honest about it. They don't pretend. I admire that. They'll say: "We want more money. We need more money."

Hagel added that he wants to take the GOP "back to the party of Eisenhower, Goldwater and Reagan. It was a pretty simple party in those days. It was all about limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense and pro-trade foreign policy."

Hagel also didn't spare his artillery against the administration's Iraq war policies, stating that "If someone says I am a disloyal Republican because I am not supporting my party, let them say it. War is bigger than politics."

Citing his service in Vietnam, where he was twice wounded and lost some of his ability to hear, he recalled that "Congress was absent during the Vietnam War, and they didn't ask the tough questions, and consequently we lost 58,000 Americans and lost a war and humiliated this nation. It took a generation to get over it. As long as I am here as a U.S. senator, I am going to do whatever I can to make sure that isn't going to happen."

The Nebraska Republican complained that the U.S. doesn't "have enough troops. But I don't think the answer to increasing manpower is to pursue some of the things the Pentagon is doing, such as doubling and tripling bonuses for those in the military. Kids do not serve their country because they are in it to make money."

He danced around the question of whether he will run for President in 2008. "I haven't said I am running," he told Solomon.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 109th; biggovernment; chuckhagel; federalspending; hagel; lost; rinos
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To: SpringheelJack
[ If a person is actually insulting Bush by calling him a monster, reckless cowboy, etc., then by all means get mad and object. But how one chooses to refer to him --- as "Dubya," "GWB," "Bush the Younger," "Bush Jr," "43", etc. --- is not something to make anything of by itself. All those labels can be and are used without pejorative intent. ]

Hmmm, I prefer...
Count Von Bushula and the Bushbats myself.. its more accurate..
but thats just me..

NOTE: the Bushbats feed on Bush-Moths which themselves feed on the fabric of a Free Republic..)

81 posted on 07/04/2005 10:48:04 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Soul Seeker

Exactly, I think Graham getting tight with Hellery helps her and does not help him one bit. He is so out of bounds, I am wondering if Hellery has some sweet little file on him. He was great on the Impeachment Committee.


82 posted on 07/04/2005 10:48:29 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I assume when he says, "We", he includes himself.


83 posted on 07/04/2005 10:48:37 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: SpringheelJack

No, it is reality.

From every troll that uses it, from every NYT's article, from Saddam Hussein it is meant as a derogative.

Perhaps, as you say, it is not so in your case. You would be very much in a small minority.

"DUBYA" has been turned into a term of affection among the right. You will not see people contesting use of that term on this board. "JR" has not been similiarly rehabilitated.


84 posted on 07/04/2005 10:51:33 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: samantha

Graham is a McCain flacky. He has evaluated those in the Party and chosen McCain as the likely winner of this war between the conservative and the blue blood factions of the Party. Graham feels he'll be rewarded for this loyalty in the end. Graham has picked the losing side.

As he'll discover when he, and McCain, go down in defeat in '08.


85 posted on 07/04/2005 10:54:51 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: samantha
You have been incorrect in using it that way.

I've only used it as an easily understood identifier, and it's fair if used that way. It's not a slam in itself. It's often used to distinguish between two persons, even if the middle names are not exactly the same.

86 posted on 07/04/2005 10:55:20 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

The only examples you listed that are being used to describe George W Bush that is a pejorative is Jr. Listen to the democrats on any Hannity and colmes or any number of shows where they are allowed to get the slams in and they will use it over and over intermittently with "shrub" You have to listen the way they say it and in the context,and you will be amazed.


87 posted on 07/04/2005 10:56:43 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: SpringheelJack
Reardon may be a Bush opponent

I'm a Big Government opponent, no matter which cheap politician is advocating it.

Too many are willfully blind to the selling-out of the American People by the Bush Administration and the Republican Party - take that daily picture-licking thread, for instance. Worshipping politicians is not the mark of a theoretically-free country.

88 posted on 07/04/2005 10:59:16 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: samantha

Or run a search engine check on the term as I just did. Not one positive usage of the term popped up.


89 posted on 07/04/2005 10:59:44 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

May be, but I find this entire issue hard to believe, and consider myself blessed that I never heard of it till now.


90 posted on 07/04/2005 11:00:16 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Soul Seeker

This is our hope. I can never figure out which mask Mccain,Graham or Hagel will wear on any give day.


91 posted on 07/04/2005 11:02:42 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: Hank Rearden

Jealousy is rearing it's ugly head.


92 posted on 07/04/2005 11:04:27 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: AntiGuv
The Republicans turned into Democrats when they approved: (a) federalizing the public school system; (b) hundreds of billions of dollars in new entitlements; (c) a 'nation-building' foreign policy.

Don't forget faith-based pork.

93 posted on 07/04/2005 11:04:30 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: Soul Seeker

YOU ARE GOOD!


94 posted on 07/04/2005 11:05:33 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: samantha
Yeah. Jealousy. Right.

No wonder Hagel, McCain, Bush Jr. etc. can take the votes of millions of the masses for granted, no matter what they pull.

95 posted on 07/04/2005 11:05:57 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: samantha

Lindsey will follow McCain.

The real competition is between Hagel and McCain. Notice Hagel slammed the Judas pack McCain orchestrated, but then McCain slammed Hagel for his comments on the war. They have a RINO competition brewing amongst them.

Hagel has chosen the the war to be a main adversary of. McCain the Courts. So if one comes out in favor, look for the other to come out against.


96 posted on 07/04/2005 11:07:25 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Hank Rearden

I could say the same about people that vote for Pat Buchanan, who gave me a cold shiver when I met him. He has a beautiful smile,and twinkling eyes,but he is a nasty,vicious bully behind those great features and it comes through in person. SCARY!


97 posted on 07/04/2005 11:11:05 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: inkling
Why do (many) Republicans who seek the Presidency masquerade as Democrats (and fail)? George W Bush won the Presidency in 2004 by endorsing Republican ideas, not by masquerading as a Democrat. He admittedly does have "soft" spots on entitlement spending (e.g., Medicare), but the Congress reeks far worse in this regard.
98 posted on 07/04/2005 11:12:34 AM PDT by dufekin
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To: samantha
The only examples you listed that are being used to describe George W Bush that is a pejorative is Jr.

And I say that by itself it isn't a pejorative, though some people who hate Bush may often use it in that context. "Dubya" is also used a lot like that. The fact is "jr" is a commonly used descriptive term for fathers and sons who share the same first name, even though the middle names may be different.

100 posted on 07/04/2005 11:14:10 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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