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Newsweek: Gonzales Pick Will Doom Jeb Bush
NewsMax ^ | 7/3/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 07/03/2005 8:02:04 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: nopardons
Jeb Bush's chance of ever being the president, went POOF, the minute his brother was elected to his first term. With the second term, the final nail was hammered into that coffin.

And Terri Schiavo's death was probably that last shovelful of dirt on his political grave.

41 posted on 07/03/2005 9:02:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: ExSES
And THAT sentiment is exactly what the majority of this nation thinks too. Which is why, Jeb's chance for the presidency went belly-up, the minute his brother won the first time.
42 posted on 07/03/2005 9:03:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wagglebee

I'm drawing on memory - which is fallible - but I think Barry Goldwater was opposed to abortion until be married his second (and liberal) wife. After that he "grew" (as the liberals say.)


43 posted on 07/03/2005 9:13:13 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: wagglebee; Tannerone

I second that Terri Schiavo reference. As I put it at the time, Jeb's chances of ever becoming President died with her.


44 posted on 07/03/2005 9:13:21 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The legislative process is like the digestive process, same end product)
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To: Brilliant
Great post! That's one of the few logical, well reasoned, factual posts concerning this issue, I have seen on FR. Far too many people are repeating things that the MSM has said and/or posting imaginings.
45 posted on 07/03/2005 9:14:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Malesherbes

He first said it in an interview in the early 80's, he was also opposed to the religious right from the time the beginning. He NEVER was conservative on social issues, his conservativism was primarily limited to strong defense, smaller government and fighting communism.


46 posted on 07/03/2005 9:15:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Malesherbes
Barry Goldwater grew more and more LIBERAL, the older he got and an awful lot of what he said, in '64, was just hot air, which he really didn't believe in.

By the end of his life, he was BELOVED by the Liberals.

47 posted on 07/03/2005 9:18:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wagglebee

Probably; but let's not forget, that his wife does NOT want him to run for/be president.


48 posted on 07/03/2005 9:20:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wagglebee

How many times does Jeb have to say he's not running?
Does he have a history of saying he's not running and then run?


49 posted on 07/03/2005 9:22:18 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The New York Times ~ Now 89% Fact Free!)
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To: no dems

Not to mention Alberto calling the minatemen vigilantes.


50 posted on 07/03/2005 9:25:04 PM PDT by doc
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To: no dems

Not to mention Alberto calling the minatemen vigilantes. I lisented to this clown on radio with Laura Ingram. How can you guys support a president who hires an open borders attorney general. Vote constitution party before it is to late.


51 posted on 07/03/2005 9:27:31 PM PDT by doc
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To: Miss Marple

Gonzalez will probably be appointed to take Stevens' place when the time comes.


52 posted on 07/03/2005 9:29:20 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: nopardons

Sadly that is indeed correct. You can see plenty of it here on this thread with the Schiavo comments.


53 posted on 07/03/2005 9:31:22 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: wagglebee
"We're not Republican patsies," he tells Newsweek. "Jeb Bush can go sell insurance."

Miranda is a Conservative hero. God bless him.

54 posted on 07/03/2005 9:32:49 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Brilliant

What I don't understand is .. Jeb is term-limited out so he's not running for anything .. and Jeb has already said he's not running for President in '08 - so what's with this threat business .. it sounds juvenile.


55 posted on 07/03/2005 9:34:24 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: nopardons
One of the main reasons why Republican Presidents appointed Justices like (Souter, Stevens, and Kennedy who were all touted as Conservatives) is because the White House relied on the ABA (American Bar Association) for their recommendations, The simple fact is that the Liberal groups knew before we did, that they couldn't sell their Liberal agenda in the voting booth, and the legislatures couldn't adopt it either. So the Liberals recognized the importance of the Courts and started grooming thousands of activist lawyers to be promoted to Circuit and Appellate level Seats clear back in the 1950's.

Unfortunately we didn't see what they were up to until the mid 1970's, and it has taken us until now to be able to match their organizational capabilities. On the Bork nomination, our side was simply unprepared for the smear campaign that was waged against Bork, and it was the usually suspects on our side that got wet feet and dumped Bork (Sen. Arlen Spector) Then after Bork, we still weren't prepared for what they tried to do to Thomas.

No time in our history can anyone say we have waged smear campaigns like the democrats have and to be honest, I'm glad we haven't. The Democrats will ruin our Justice system if they are allowed to get away with this Bullshit they have been pulling for the past 25 years. What Conservative Judge wants to see his reputation dragged through the mud, for that matter what Judge of any stripe wants this kind of smearing. The Senate needs to understand that elections have consequences and after the many horrible decisions that have come down form the SCOTUS lately, they will sign their own death certificate if they try to smear a Judge who is an originalist or strict constructionist. I believe last weeks "Takings" decision will cost the Democrats big time in 2006. Anyone who would defend that decision will be voted out, and considering that it was the Liberals and O'Connor who were in the majority, they had better watch their step.

56 posted on 07/03/2005 9:37:56 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: MJY1288
and it was the usually suspects on our side that got wet feet and dumped Bork (Sen. Arlen Spector) Then after Bork, we still weren't prepared for what they tried to do to Thomas.

For the life of me I'll never understand what folks see in Arlen Spector. Don't count on him to do anything but muddy the waters on judicial nominees.
57 posted on 07/03/2005 9:43:18 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The New York Times ~ Now 89% Fact Free!)
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To: nopardons
BTW, Do you remember when GWB first came into office and declared that he would not be seeking the advice or recommendations from the ABA?

The Liberals went nuts over this. And GWB simply said that the ABA had become politicized and that he would rely on a team of his own Lawyers for recommendations for possible candidates.

George W. Bush has been strong on his Judicial nominations and the main reason is the ABA is no longer the organization who does the recommending. This is how GHWB was tricked into Souter, and the same can be said for O'Connor. Reagan expressed to those around him that he wanted to appoint a woman to the SCOTUS, they had a hard time finding one, that's why O'Connor came from a low level Court in Arizona. The ABA recommended her

58 posted on 07/03/2005 9:50:47 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Unfortunately, we see it on many other threads as well. You'd think that most people here, would know the facts; but they don't.


59 posted on 07/03/2005 9:52:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FlJoePa
Quit your freaking whining. If you live in FL and want to bash him, fine. But if you live in Pittsburgh or Des Moines, or Chicago, it's none of your damn business what Jeb Bush does or doesn't do.



Thank you! And, all the whiners forget that he and Katrine Harris did not backed down in 2000 when alGore tried to steal the election with the help our "local" SC. Moreover, Jeb has told us over and over he's NOT running!!!
60 posted on 07/03/2005 9:55:38 PM PDT by danamco
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