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Clinton casts immigration as a Social Security fix
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE ^ | July 02, 2005 | ANDREW DEMILLO

Posted on 07/02/2005 1:05:20 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

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And if we made perjury legal, bubba would have never been impeached. Oh, the humanity!
1 posted on 07/02/2005 1:05:21 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

Uhhhhhh....I thought Socialist Security didn't need fixing.


2 posted on 07/02/2005 1:11:53 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Pay attention, I think we're finally getting to hear Hillarys stance on the issue since she's too cowardly to say anything herself.


3 posted on 07/02/2005 1:14:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

THIS is why you never vote for a democrat.


4 posted on 07/02/2005 1:17:18 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: cripplecreek

This seems to run against Hillary's "get tough" musings. Of course, the Clintons are the masters of playing both sides of an issue.


5 posted on 07/02/2005 1:19:21 PM PDT by nj26
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To: satchmodog9
"THIS is why you never vote for a democrat."

Or a republican!

6 posted on 07/02/2005 1:20:05 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: Texas Eagle
Hey Bubba, Ponzi schemes can't be fixed with higher volume or any other way. They all go south unless government (taxpayer) supported.
7 posted on 07/02/2005 1:20:32 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: TERMINATTOR; HiJinx; gubamyster


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

8 posted on 07/02/2005 1:21:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TERMINATTOR
League of United Latin American Citizens - (LULAC)

DREAM Act (Student Adjustment Act)
Re-Introduction Request Letter

Each year 65,000 promising high school students are denied access to higher education. Without legal status, doors to higher education, the workforce, and, ultimately, a full, productive future are closed to these students, even though they have lived most of their lives in the United States. The DREAM Act (Student Adjustment Act) can help these displaced students - who are without documentation - contribute to the national economy and society by providing a path to citizenship.

This is a plea for you to act by urging President Bush's support and by asking Congress to re-introduce this legislation and championing its passage in this session.

9 posted on 07/02/2005 1:27:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TERMINATTOR
President Clinton told the nation’s largest Hispanic organization

Where is Teddy Roosevelt when you need someone with some moxie?

10 posted on 07/02/2005 1:30:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Just like a Democrat, keep the Ponzi scheme afloat by any means possible. Why not put the whole world into the system? Clinton takes us for fools.
11 posted on 07/02/2005 1:32:38 PM PDT by Whispering Smith
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Clinton is exactly right. Illegal immigrants contribute FAR more than they take away from our economy. Study after study have proved this. (despite what some might say on here) Illegal immigrants come here to work, not to get fat off government largness, we have plenty of our own citizens to do that.

Immigration WILL fix our SS problem. However, if we phase out SS we can get the benefit from not having it AND get even more benfit from immigration without it being sucked up by the bloated wasteful and socialistic social security.

I haven't read the comments on here, but I'm guessing there will be a lot of knee jerk anti clinton anti immigration hysteria.

Just remember it was Ronald Reagan who said:
I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.


12 posted on 07/02/2005 1:41:24 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Think Bubba forgot that just a few months ago the Bush Administration gave immigrants access to the social security benefits further drowning an already drowned system.


13 posted on 07/02/2005 1:44:53 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Whispering Smith

Demo Rat Klinton wants more people dependent on the government, natural constituents of socialism. The Socialist Security system should be terminated, not "reformed". I'll take a refund of my "investment" now, and let the government off the hook.


14 posted on 07/02/2005 1:45:15 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: TERMINATTOR
The notion that Illegal Aliens do and will prop up the Social Security system is absolute bull sh*t.

There has been no US gov detailed examination of the facts. By mixing Census data on legal, tax-paying Immigrants, and extrapolating that valid data with horsesh"t projections for illegals is simply assinine.

The only illegal aliens who MAY be paying into Social Security are those who have stolen valid Cards and Numbers. And that number would be insignificant when compared to the whole.

For the few who did pay some money into the system with illegal identification, the government should review the health and welfare services-costs the individual received and bill him/her for what they still owe.

While Clinton, Bushjr and the other Illegal Alien Advocates would have US citizens believe such garbage, this is a sure way to accelerate the bankructy of the nation.
15 posted on 07/02/2005 1:56:28 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: foofoopowder

I was listening to a talk radio show the other day and someone said that Brazil requires anyone seeking to enter the country to live and work have the equivelent of 10k on them upon entering. Which, it was said, is equal to the averages persons wages for 2 years. If true, sounds like a good policy to me.

But on Bill Clintons opinion. How could I have been so stupid. Of course! Let more peope in. The man's a friggin genius you know. Just think how lucky we will be when he is the "First Gentleman" in '08. It will be like ......like a two for the price of one deal.

**Please don't kill me. This IS sarcasm**


16 posted on 07/02/2005 2:04:16 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Clinton called for a more welcoming policy toward immigration

The policy toward legal immigration is just fine, it's the illegal immigration that is the problem.

MSM perpetually attempts to legitimize the illegals by lumping all immigrants together which is insulting to those who are following the legal process.

17 posted on 07/02/2005 2:10:28 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: CharlieChan
Well the Social Security ponzi system certainly isn't going to be kept going by the 40 million American workers who have been aborted since Roe v Wade.
18 posted on 07/02/2005 2:24:09 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: traviskicks

"I haven't read the comments on here, but I'm guessing there will be a lot of knee jerk anti clinton anti immigration hysteria."

As opposed to knee-jerk cheap labor lobby rationalizations and agitprop, like about social security?

No independent study shows that illegal immigration is a net gain for America, it's a net loss.


20 posted on 07/02/2005 2:56:21 PM PDT by Shermy
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