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To: MarMema

Those leads have led agents to the Lowe's in Couer d'Alene and specifically to people who bought white zip ties.

Brenda Groene, her son Slade and boyfriend Mark McKenzie were found murdered inside their Wolf Lodge Bay home two weeks ago last Monday.

Investigators have released few details about the crime scene but on Tuesday KREM 2 News learned that the three murder victims were bound with white zip ties possibly purchased from the Coeur d'Alene Lowes. FBI agents have interviewed people who bought the zip ties from the store including a local businessman who did not want to be identified.

FBI agents confirmed to KREM 2 News that the zip ties are an important clue in the case along with the murder weapon. Investigators have not revealed what it is but the Coroner’s report said the device used killed the victim's quickly........"


http://www.krem.com/topstories/stories/krem2_060105_groene-latest.2d07c6ad9.html


Nancy Grace show - May 18th Quote:
These people were bound, gagged, and, from what I understand, brutally tortured and beaten.
and

Abrams Report - May 23rd:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7963393/
Quote:
ABRAMS: Dylan and Shasta Groene‘s mother, brother and the mother‘s boyfriend were last seen at a barbecue a week ago Sunday before they were found bound, gagged, brutally beaten, murdered inside their home. Dylan and Shasta, though, have been missing.
and

CDA Press on May 24th:
http://www.cdapress.com/articles/20...news/news02.prt
(http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2005/05/24/news/news02.prt)
Quote:
Worst, a forensic psychiatrist with more than 32 years' experience, also thinks it's doubtful that only one person could have slaughtered the entire Groene family. "A crime scene with three people bound and gagged, and then repeatedly bludgeoned, certainly suggests to me than more than one person did this," said Worst, who specializes in rural psychiatry, psychiatric standards of care, and post traumatic-stress disorder.

A gag is used to prevent someone from screaming or from warning another person among other purposes.

Why would all of the murder victims be gagged in the home that was far from neighbors and sat back away from the highway? Who were the perp(s) trying to keep from hearing the victims? The 2 children?


457 posted on 07/02/2005 1:54:17 PM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

Maybe it was just to keep them quiet as they watched the others being beaten to death.

This case is getting sicker and sicker.


459 posted on 07/02/2005 1:56:46 PM PDT by Kewz1
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To: Ellesu
Good questions. One report I saw said they were also likely interrogated.

I had been looking for evidence of cigarette burns on those killed at the home.

460 posted on 07/02/2005 1:57:20 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Ellesu
The person said they had masks available at Denny's from Madagascar and that Duncan took a mask and put it on Shasta, as if to 'mask her'.
466 posted on 07/02/2005 2:04:19 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Ellesu

Maybe he was acting out some weird, perverted fantasy.


467 posted on 07/02/2005 2:04:48 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Ellesu

Noise travels very much in the hills around here. It is amazing how loud sounds can be in the quiet hills.

My husband works at that store!

MCD


526 posted on 07/02/2005 3:28:39 PM PDT by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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