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You can hear both preachers state they do not know if Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. If you go to the link, and click on May 11 05, you can down load the audio and listen.
1 posted on 07/01/2005 9:55:00 AM PDT by Rhadaghast
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Ol' Billy is going out with a whimper, not a bang, that's for sure.


2 posted on 07/01/2005 9:55:54 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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That's not good.


3 posted on 07/01/2005 9:58:39 AM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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The stage is set for the Antichrist. If you don't believe in anything you will fall for everything. I never expected to see Billy Graham fit this description.
4 posted on 07/01/2005 9:58:50 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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One questionable quote versus a gazillion solid declarations of salvation through Christ alone over a 50 year ministry....Frankly, I'm willing to give him a pass here. I'll rely upon 50 years of preaching the gospel of salvation through Christ alone, rather than one comment made in conversation with that charlatan Robert Schuller.


6 posted on 07/01/2005 10:00:37 AM PDT by My2Cents ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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This and his current love affair with the Clintons is evidence that his Alzheimers is really taking its toll.

He does have AZ doesn't he?

7 posted on 07/01/2005 10:01:44 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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Jesus said that whosoever confesses Him before men, He will confess before the Father. And he who denies Him before men, He will deny before the Father.

Maybe Billy will evade that Biblical judgment due to what could well be creeping dementia.


8 posted on 07/01/2005 10:02:17 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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what point is that discussion...i dont have an hour to listen in its entirety


9 posted on 07/01/2005 10:03:39 AM PDT by wallcrawlr ( Moderates = You're the wise middle. Like a spare tire around the fat waist of society.)
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Jimmy Carter, President turned evangelist must have converted Billy to universalism or was it the other way around?


10 posted on 07/01/2005 10:03:45 AM PDT by cherrytoes (Life is - you know...)
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Has anyone here even heard it yet.

Wheres the transcript?


11 posted on 07/01/2005 10:04:57 AM PDT by wallcrawlr ( Moderates = You're the wise middle. Like a spare tire around the fat waist of society.)
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having trouble finding link.
12 posted on 07/01/2005 10:05:05 AM PDT by since1868
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I'm no Biblical scholar, but I thought that Heaven is uniquely Christian (or Christian derivatives such as Islam)

I can't site Scripture but didn't Christ say "I go to prepare a place for you..."?

There isn't any mention of Heaven before Christ is there?

14 posted on 07/01/2005 10:06:03 AM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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Without knocking Mr. Graham, there is something seriously wrong with him of late! His son needs to come forth and straighten things out. I can not believe he would say that. Perhaps his sickness has taken over him...I'm baffled!
15 posted on 07/01/2005 10:06:51 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Now his love-fest with the clintons makes sense. If Reverend Graham does not know where he stands and why, it's no wonder he ended up praising those two. This truly is unbelievably sad.
16 posted on 07/01/2005 10:07:16 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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I do not know about Billy, but the son Franklin has said on numerious occassions that salvation is only through Jesus.


20 posted on 07/01/2005 10:10:44 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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Let's see a transcript before we start throwing stones at Billy. God used that man mightily in this world.


22 posted on 07/01/2005 10:11:07 AM PDT by inkling
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it's about the 11:00 minute mark on WM file....
Billy sounds like he is saying that some people get a consciousness of the truth of Christ without actually knowing Christ...uh....well, that phenomena is not reported in the New Testament documents...ya gotta know about him 'fore you believe in him...that's why preaching and missionaries are needed...otherwise...you can stay at home, and let the "unsaved" come to their own conclusions.....
Sorry Billy, no pass on this one...it is a very weak position...but you are right that people have a sense of
the need for salvation from God, they just don't know where
it is...your job is to tell, and live out, the great news. Let God handle their response...


23 posted on 07/01/2005 10:12:23 AM PDT by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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Please tell me this isn't true. I know it is a trend in the evangelical/mysticism crowd (I am late to this realization). I find it hard to believe that this wasn't just a mistake or something. Oh please let it not be true of BG.

BEWARE all of the new Christian Mystics, Zen Christianity, Christian Buddism, Emerging Church, etc. They teach New Age, occult type practices and are infiltrating and devouring our churches. I am in SHOCK! and appalled. This is the crowd that is introducting this universal salvation theology -- the image of God within you. It is really scary and sick. They worship a flash of light they experience during an altered state of consciousness (see dianetics, scientology, hinduism, buddhism, wicca, occultism, etc..), not the God of the Bible. DO NOT JOIN THEM.

25 posted on 07/01/2005 10:12:41 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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I listened to it.

Yes, there is some very complex salvation theory going on...but I will not throw Billy out of the boat on this one.

It does not ring to the level of heresy to me...its simply someone contemplating how people who have not ever heard of Jesus may be saved and go to heaven.


31 posted on 07/01/2005 10:16:45 AM PDT by wallcrawlr ( Moderates = You're the wise middle. Like a spare tire around the fat waist of society.)
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Didn't you see Ken Starr and
those House Republicans crucify me?
33 posted on 07/01/2005 10:17:15 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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J.C. Saves You.
38 posted on 07/01/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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