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Manufacturing Activity Expands at Fast Rate
AP ^ | July 1, 2005 | Adam Geller

Posted on 07/01/2005 7:27:38 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

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To: Modernman; Willie Green; raybbr
...our incredibly productive agricultural industry only employs something like 3% of the population...

--and is less than one percent of the labor force.   When I was a kid I still used hear old timers complain about how important agriculture is and why the shift from agriculture to manufacturing was so awful.  They used to say that food was the only thing that mattered because "you can't eat a machine".   They'd disparage factory work as 'wage slavery' and predict the eminent collapse of the American republic.

Now we have to put up with the next generation of clowns complaining about the shift from manufacturing to services.  No matter that wages are higher and that the country is stronger.  

21 posted on 07/01/2005 9:24:51 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Willie Green
No, widgets are made in China or Mexico, where it often requires MORE, but cheaper people. But widgets are then bulk-shipped to the US, where it takes fewer Americans to simply repackage them for individual retail sale.

What you call "repackaging", everyone else considers manufacturing. True, a Chinese worker might make a medium-value item such as a tire, and a Mexican worker might make another medium-value item such as a seat. However, those items are then manufactured into a high-value manufactured item known as a "BMW" by American workers.

There are cost efficiencies in having lesser-skilled workers put together cheaper items. However, at the end of the day, American workers are the ones manufacturing the big-ticket item at the end of the manufacturing chain.

That is a good thing. Wasting the highly-trained, efficient American worker on textiles and other low-end manifacturing is not smart economic policy.

22 posted on 07/01/2005 9:43:20 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: expat_panama
--and is less than one percent of the labor force. When I was a kid I still used hear old timers complain about how important agriculture is and why the shift from agriculture to manufacturing was so awful. They used to say that food was the only thing that mattered because "you can't eat a machine".

Due to the huge increase in farm efficiency, the average American family spends a far smaller percentage of its income on food than a century ago.

Similarly, due to the huge increase in manufacturing efficiency, the average family spends a far smaller percentage of its income on manufactured items than a century ago. That is one of the reasons why so many American families have two cars, several televisions, a computer etc. etc. And that is one of the reasons why we can afford to spend so much money on services.

23 posted on 07/01/2005 9:48:42 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Modernman
Most people don't realize that GM's largest single supplier isn't for steel, aluminum, or plastic, it's insurance.   Sure, when we talk about how some people would be doing more good if they moved from services to a factory job, that's probably true of someone like Pat Buchanan.  The rest of us are doing just fine thank you working in the services.
24 posted on 07/01/2005 9:55:44 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: ninenot
The U.S. manufacturing sector expanded at a faster-than-expected pace in June, as new orders to factories picked up, a private research group reported Friday. Activity at the nation's factories increased for a 25th consecutive month, according to figures from the Institute for Supply Management.

Sorry, more good news!!!

25 posted on 07/01/2005 9:59:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Modernman
Wasting the highly-trained, efficient American worker on textiles and other low-end manifacturing is not smart economic policy.

They shoulda gone into brain surgery, right?

26 posted on 07/01/2005 10:09:15 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Ummmmnnnn.....

It's good news, in the sense that the expansion recorded by ISM REVERSES a 12-month-long decline in the Index.

It's not exactly unalloyed Good News, however: both New York and Chicago area manufacturing indexes dropped, significantly, yesterday. In addition, MZM's rate of growth has gone southeast for the last 12 months, and the Yield Curve continues to flatten. "Durable Goods" increased--until you take out aircraft orders (last month)--after which the category DECREASED by 2+%.

Finally, the Milwaukee Index showed an interesting little item: delivery time (from suppliers) DECREASED; which is not necessarily "good news."

All in all, the MZM number, combined with the continuing flattening of the Yield Curve, is important to watch.

FYI, Manufacturing Employment is still down 8+% and real wages took a small hit, again, last month.

So, as you noted, things are OK. But there are strange wiggles and burps out there.


27 posted on 07/01/2005 10:17:22 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That cheap dollar is finally kicking in.


28 posted on 07/01/2005 10:17:52 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Fitzcarraldo; All

Then again, how many of these jobs are automated??


29 posted on 07/01/2005 10:19:44 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: ninenot
Wasting the highly-trained, efficient American worker on textiles ...   ...They shoulda gone into brain surgery, right?

The American worker is by far the worlds most productive.  Japanese workers may work longer workdays, but Americans work smarter work days.  As a result, international bidding on American man-hours has soared and the overwhelming economic pressure has lured millions of US workers out of their US factories and put them to work showing other countries how to run their factories.

IMHO this constant sarcasm panning the advancing American worker is not only wrong, it's simply mindless America-bashing.

30 posted on 07/01/2005 10:26:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: ninenot
It's good news, in the sense that the expansion recorded by ISM REVERSES a 12-month-long decline in the Index.

You need to double check your numbers. There was not a 12 month long decline prior to June.

31 posted on 07/01/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: stinkerpot65
That cheap dollar is finally kicking in.

I think the dollar is at a 9 month high.

32 posted on 07/01/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Still low though, overall. Makes our exports cheaper.


33 posted on 07/01/2005 10:36:33 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: ninenot
They shoulda gone into brain surgery, right?

Probably not. However, rather than working in textiles, they might now be working in a BMW plant or a plant making computer chips.

What's a better product for a country to be manufacturing- Nike t-shirts or advanced microchips?

34 posted on 07/01/2005 11:21:05 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: stinkerpot65; Toddsterpatriot
That cheap dollar is finally kicking in....   ...Still low though, overall. Makes our exports cheaper.   

Exports are nice, but they just aren't the big bugaboo everyone seems to want to make of it.  

We had no growth in exports in the late '90's and industrial production grew.   Then from '01 to '03 exports grew and industrial production was flat.-- the US is so huge that exports are not that big of a factor.

35 posted on 07/01/2005 11:33:20 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama; Willie Green
Our industrial production is 50% higher than in 1992? How can this be? Willie Green told me we off shored and out sourced all our production. Was Willie wrong? I mean about this too?
36 posted on 07/01/2005 11:38:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That and the fact that exports have more than doubled with NAFTA.


37 posted on 07/01/2005 11:52:10 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

And higher real wages and 20,000,000 more jobs!! Makes you wonder what they're whining about.


38 posted on 07/01/2005 12:02:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; Southack; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER
"You've got to ac-cent-u-ate the positive, e-lim-in-ate the negative... no time for Mr. Inbetween!"

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY, EVERYONE!!! (Don't forget to fly Old Glory!!!)

39 posted on 07/01/2005 12:12:55 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Liberal/Media Orchestration is just like Pornography! You recognize it instantly when you see it!!!)
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To: raybbr
Notice the glaring lack of reference to job growth in those sectors?

Thanks for the ping, raybbr!

I seem to recall that making hamburgers is now considered manufacturing. So perhaps all we're really seeing is more burger flipping....

Meanwhile, the Chinese wax stronger.

40 posted on 07/01/2005 12:14:21 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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