[CHARLITE]

For your interest.

Char :)

[Jaysun]

I'm not sure why "Planned Parenthood" has taken an interest in this issue, but I always feel safe taking a position opposite theirs.

[GloriaJane]

I think planed parenthood has taken this on because it's too much like religion for them to feel safe about it.

They're afraid of religion creeping into the minds of their potential customers because religion makes people see life as a gift from God and not to be destroyed.

With planed parenthood, it's all about the money.

[RightWingAtheist]

I'm an atheist and evolutionist and I am also pro-life. The efforts to force ID into science education are comparable to attempts to force the sex-positive agenda into sex education.

[Aquinasfan]

Of course Planned Infanticide is upset. The group was founded and run by atheists.

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

--Margaret Sanger
Letter written to Clarence Gamble, 10 December 1939

[LogicWings]

The fact is ID is based upon a qualitative evaluation that is not objective in any sense, that certain life processes are "too complex to have evolved by natural selection" and that isn't a statement of fact, but an opinion.

There is no scientific evaluation, nor can there be, of what is "too complex". The contra-positive is "it cannot be the result of evolution because it is too complex" which constitutes the Fallacy of Asserting the Negative.

Prove there are no Unicorns. Prove there are no Cyclops. Prove there is no God. Cannot be done, one cannot prove what doesn't exist. One can only say, "there is no evidence."

Proving evolution inadequate to answer certain questions does not prove any other alternate theory, assertion or idea. Even if it could be proven that the theory of evolution isn't sufficient to explain the complexity of life on this planet, that wouldn't justify Intelligent Design as an alternate theory. It would just deepen the mystery.

Proving one thing wrong doesn't prove anything else true.

And ID has no evidence to speak of. There isn't one iota that demands that conclusion.