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Koran predicts "Blazing Hell Fire" for its own demise - (eloquent ex-Muslim; Islam must be crushed!)
HISTORY OF JIHAD.ORG ^ | JUNE 29, 2005 | Jihad Team

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:47:47 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: wizardoz
Plenty of Satanists here in the good ole US of A as well are "harmless"

Well we don't want those idiots here either.

41 posted on 06/30/2005 11:30:49 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: danamco

Holy $hi#!!!! Talk about ALARMING. Where did you find out about this? Can you freepmail me please?


42 posted on 06/30/2005 11:32:49 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: danamco

Disregard my last request. Searched and found the verse to be a hoax.


43 posted on 06/30/2005 11:36:39 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: coldoc

Thank you for the correction, sorry!!!


44 posted on 06/30/2005 11:36:57 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Windsong

A hoax, it was e-mailed to me from a trusted friend, sorry!!!


45 posted on 06/30/2005 11:38:46 PM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco; Windsong; All
sorry - that's a bit of hogwash that is making the rounds.

that verse appears nowhere in the Koran.
certainly not suriyah 9:11 -

[9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
[9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
[9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief-- surely their oaths are nothing-- so that they may desist.
[9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.

46 posted on 06/30/2005 11:41:53 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: Eastbound

1 - yes, I would agree it will be justice. Eze 36-37-38-39 - facinating story.

2 - As for a translation error about "rocks" .. remember - the people who wrote this had never seen a rocket. And .. don't discount hail as being rocks.

3 - Yes, GOD does work through his people but this fight will be against the foes of Israel - and GOD has a separate covenant with them.


47 posted on 07/01/2005 12:46:19 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CHARLITE
cc: President Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Condi......


Nukes and Ultimatums

worked in '45, works in '05.
48 posted on 07/01/2005 1:08:55 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Eastbound

"Thus only an army with a greater determination and paranoia and absence of morals than the Muslims, can defeat Islam."
Wrong premise.



I agree. Its just that today the definition of morals have been changed to something closer to tolerance and diversity.

Truman had Morals, which is why he decided to use the bomb. He not only saved a million Americans but probably many more millions of japanese. Cause you know, morality encompasses looking ahead as well as looking at what is going on now.


And the future, if not changed soon, will bring us Islam armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons aimed at US.


49 posted on 07/01/2005 1:21:27 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Eastbound

If we are nuked first, then it will be time to clean out the arsenals and scorch the earth wherever it needs scorching



IMHO, we were nuked first. Actually we were nuked twice. Both in the same place.

-WTC 1993, by the grace of God, the building didn't go down immediately and kill tens of thousands.

-WTC 2001, the destruction was equal to a suitcase nuke at least.

Waiting to be nuked again, would be suicidal to this country. It could come from a shipping container, a truck coming across our unguarded border and do you think, in our present PC mentality, we would strike back against some country without "proof" that country was "involved".


No we can not wait to be nuked.


50 posted on 07/01/2005 1:40:52 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: wizardoz

Is it really so hard to believe there are Muslims who have some vague notion that being muslim means, essentially, you don't eat pork and you pray to the east... and not much else?



In Christian countries yes. Not in countries where civil law is the Sheria/koran/whatever the mulah/ayatolla says.

In Iran, Saudi Arabia, southern Iraq, Pakistan, and others, the law is Islam. It does not matter whether you are interested in obeying it or not because you may or may not be a moderate muslim. The LAW IS ISLAM.

You will do what ISLAM says.


51 posted on 07/01/2005 1:47:45 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: King Prout

I am equally certain that there were Nazi Germans who were generally alright folks - but this in no way demonstrates that Nazism was anything other than barbarous.



BULLSEYE!!!


52 posted on 07/01/2005 1:50:03 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: wizardoz

You cannot say Islam is kind by looking at the behavior of the submited and nonhalf of the muslim world. Did she have a choice under islam?No death penalty.

Then again,yeah,sure.I knew many devout muslim women before their marriage. Sodomy is their modus operandi to keep virginity.

Islam is cheating and faking purity.

Don't you get it, there is such a thing as hypocrisy, ie. sub criticism through their habits and no real devotion. It's all based in appearances and bigotry.

Western fools.

Islam is about power struggle. Everything about these "nice" muslims is about power and putting others in the crapper whole their noses are stuck on high.

So go on ahead, eat their filth,not me,and don't expect us to suport your habits.


53 posted on 07/01/2005 1:56:59 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: CyberAnt
"2 - As for a translation error about "rocks" .. remember - the people who wrote this had never seen a rocket."

Probably true. But some things make you wonder.

" And .. don't discount hail as being rocks"

Good point! Gives a whole new meaning to the song, "Hail, Hail, The Gang's All Here."

54 posted on 07/01/2005 2:37:39 AM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: TomasUSMC
"Waiting to be nuked again, would be suicidal to this country. It could come from a shipping container, a truck coming across our unguarded border and do you think, in our present PC mentality, we would strike back against some country without "proof" that country was "involved"."

What a dilemma. I've been up half the night thinking about this and still haven't concluded anything.

But I think we would nuke any country that supports terrorism if we were nuked. Like Bush said, 'if you're not with us, you are against us,' or words to that effect. The public would demand it. If the muzzie countries knew and believed this would happen, indiscriminately, they would be busting a$$ to make sure it didn't happen.

On the other hand, I don't think they are all that civilized or care about the human race including themselves. Just look at the crap they have to put up with under the demands of Islam. Maybe that's what they are trying to escape from and what motivates them deep down.

As the months on this terrorism crap winds down, it would make no difference who struck first, for half the world would be unliveable. I would hope the muzzies would not want to go that way.

Re: Japan. They didn't have the capability to strike back and were quick to recognize their error. The muzzies don't have the brains to recognize error, so all the more reason to eliminate their capabilities -- whatever it took.

Let me extend that. If we knew without a doubt that they had the weaponry and delivery system, the rules would change quickly. If they could believe that we would not pre-empt, there would be no reason for them build the weapons.

If they go forward with their nuke program, that would change the equation the moment we found out about it. If we already know for sure they are building weapons, now is the time to take them out. Not tomorrow.

We had M.A.D. with Russia and it worked. But then, the Russians were civilized and they at least valued their own lives.

So you have a valid point. Take 'em out now if they even talk about building nukes.

But back to Square One again. Where do we start? Egypt? Iran? Regardless of where, you know the whole region is going to be barren of everything for a long time.

And the world will be changed overnight, for better or worse.

55 posted on 07/01/2005 4:01:37 AM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: wizardoz

Until she is called to act.


56 posted on 07/01/2005 6:48:54 AM PDT by marty60
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To: JudgemAll
So go on ahead, eat their filth,not me,and don't expect us to suport your habits.

There are one billion people who are Muslim, most of them simply because they were raised that way. And you think you know every single one of them. You must be God!

57 posted on 07/01/2005 7:08:35 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: tarheelswamprat

Ping!


58 posted on 07/01/2005 7:30:04 AM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: CHARLITE
Good post. It would be nice if everyone understood the true nature of Muslims. Too many people judge Muslims by the standards of their own western culture which enshrine tolerance and diversity and religious freedom.

To assume Muslims are or can be taught to be tolerant of others is ignorant. Politicians, like Bush, who spread the lie that Muslims are peaceful and tolerant are enemies of freedom. They are useful idiots for Muslim propagandists.

Islam is as dangerous an ideology as Socialism or Fascism. All three are responsible for killing and enslaving millions. It must be fought with the same ruthlessness as socialism/communism and fascism was fought against. Only with it's total destruction will the world be safe from it's murderous influences.
59 posted on 07/01/2005 7:45:17 AM PDT by monday
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To: wizardoz
"I think this is nonsense. I knew a woman who was a moderate Muslim."

Muslim women are rarely the problem. They are slaves, property of their men. They do as they are told or they are killed. Your harmless Muslim woman was just doing as she was indoctrinated to do. Mindlessly follow instruction and produce sons.

You ask her which is more important though, freedom or the Koran, and she MUST choose the Koran. She has no choice. THAT is what makes Muslims dangerous, because the Koran teaches that individual freedom must not exist either among Muslims or anyone else. Everyone must follow the Koran. There is no tolerance for those who do not.

This woman won't try to force the "prophets" teachings on you, but you can bet her sons will. If they don't it will be because they are no longer Muslim.
60 posted on 07/01/2005 8:12:37 AM PDT by monday
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