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Americans migrate to cities in South, West
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/29/05 | Jennifer C. Kerr - AP

Posted on 06/29/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) - Skyrocketing housing prices are driving people from San Francisco, Boston and other big cities. Warm weather and more affordable living are behind the rapid growth in midsize cities in Florida, Arizona, Nevada and California.

Census Bureau figures being released Thursday show no letup in the migration to the South and West, which are home to all 10 of the fastest-growing cities with at least 100,000 people.

The Phoenix suburb of Gilbert, Ariz., topped the list. The city grew by more than 46,000 people, or 42 percent, to just over 156,000 residents in a little over four years.

Next on the list ranked by percentage gain was Miramar, Fla., followed by North Las Vegas, Nev.; Port St. Lucie, Fla.; and Roseville, Calif. Rounding out the top 10 were Henderson, Nev.; Chandler, Ariz.; Cape Coral, Fla.; and Rancho Cucamonga and Irvine, both in California.

San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population. San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent.

"People like to live in smaller places and a lot of it's propelled by the sharp spike in housing costs in the inner and more attractive cities," said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "People want to get as much housing as they can for their dollars."

The median price for a single-family home in Gilbert is around $220,000, compared with more than $387,000 in Boston and $641,000 in San Francisco.

Peter Ragone, a spokesman for San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, said the city recognizes the problem and has begun a number of affordable housing initiatives, such as redevelopment projects aimed at producing more moderately priced homes.

Greg Svelund, city spokesman in Gilbert, said many new residents are coming from higher-priced communities in California. Gilbert adds an estimated 1,000 residents a month, he said.

Miramar, the second-fastest growing city, has undergone a revitalization project in the past decade, Mayor Lori Moseley said. The newest addition to the city south of Fort Lauderdale is the 54-acre Town Center, which houses government offices. Plans call for a cultural arts center that will include an 800-seat auditorium, as well as retail stores and restaurants.

"We want to be a city that you can live, work, play and prosper in," Moseley said.

Another Florida city, Port St. Lucie, experienced the largest population growth for a one-year period beginning in July 2003. It added nearly 13,000 people - a 12 percent jump.

Older, industrial cities in the Northeast and Midwest continued to lose residents. Among them were Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Cleveland.

"In those places, they've been on a steady slide since the 1950s. And most of them have not had a single up-decade since the 1940s," said Robert Lang, demographer and director of the Metropolitan Institute at Virginia Tech in Alexandria, Va.

Lang said there is not one particular reason, such as the departure of manufacturing jobs, to explain the losses. But none of the cities attracts new residents through immigration, he said.

In San Francisco and Boston, which had populations booms in the 1990s, Lang said the high-tech bust was a major factor in the declines since 2000.

"This is not shaping up to be a good decade for older cities in the United States in contrast to the 90s," said Lang. "This performance probably doesn't rival the 70s, which stand out as the worst decade, but looks to be underperforming even the 80s."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Florida; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: americans; cities; migrate; south; west
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1 posted on 06/29/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population. San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent.

I thought these cities were socialist utopias. I guess you have to be a liberal, for-the-common-man million-/billionaire to live in these cities.

2 posted on 06/29/2005 10:06:47 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just keep in mind that Montana is too far north and full of gun crazed cowboys. So just put it out of your mind.


3 posted on 06/29/2005 10:10:01 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: NormsRevenge
People are moving from San Francisco, Boston because of weather and high prices. I think there might be one or two other good reasons to move from those cities.. let me think....
4 posted on 06/29/2005 10:11:46 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: claudiustg
Peter Ragone, a spokesman for San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, said the city recognizes the problem and has begun a number of affordable housing initiatives, such as redevelopment projects aimed at producing more moderately priced homes.

I shudder to think how the new Supreme Court ruling will figure into these plans.

5 posted on 06/29/2005 10:12:39 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: claudiustg

Ditto Nebraska


6 posted on 06/29/2005 10:22:19 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: Paul Atreides

What in SF could they possible redevelop into affordable housing? The cheapest junk there is treated like an inspired Frank Lloyd Wright creation.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 10:24:36 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: claudiustg

Just like Idaho. So stay AWAY!


8 posted on 06/29/2005 10:25:37 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: claudiustg
I'm sure there have to be a few conservatives living in S.F.

There might even be some non-"progressive" churches there, too.

9 posted on 06/29/2005 10:26:24 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Paul Atreides

Ah, churches, Catholic churches!


10 posted on 06/29/2005 10:28:30 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The same trend is giving red states more electoral votes, at the expense of the blue states.

A good thing.


11 posted on 06/29/2005 10:30:28 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: MarkeyD

Yep, they'll just be bored in flyover country. No lesbian performance artists, no Starbucks on every corner.....


12 posted on 06/29/2005 10:32:57 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Paul Atreides
I shudder to think how the new Supreme Court ruling will figure into these plans.

They'll be as effective as rent control.

13 posted on 06/29/2005 10:35:25 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paul Atreides

makes you wonder what went wrong with the free market


14 posted on 06/29/2005 10:35:39 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: NormsRevenge
2003 I migrated from Louisville, KY to Aiken, SC.

Main reasons: warmer climate, smaller town, less congestion, cheaper cost of living, conservative area.

Never been happier, never looked back.

15 posted on 06/29/2005 10:39:22 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: truth_seeker
The same trend is giving red states more electoral votes, at the expense of the blue states. A good thing.

Not necessarily - a great many of these folks are bringing the blue state mentality with them.

16 posted on 06/29/2005 10:45:37 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They can always move to New London, CT.


17 posted on 06/29/2005 10:47:17 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Fido969

---makes you wonder what went wrong with the free market---

Here's one thing that went wrong with it:

---If anyone was wondering what a nice Jewish girl was doing in the gun business, the question is now moot.

After 57 years, Siegle's Guns on West MacArthur Boulevard in Oakland is closing its doors at the end of the month. Siegle's became Jewish-owned in 1993, when Mara Siegle's husband died, leaving her in charge of running the family business.

Siegle's is the second Jewish-owned gun store to close because of a new tax levied upon gun dealers. The San Francisco Gun Exchange, owned by brother and sister Bob and Beth Posner, closed in September 1999.

In 1998, following the lead of San Francisco, Oakland residents passed Measure D, which levied a tax on gun dealers. Ever since, the store has had to pay $24 for every $1,000 earned, in comparison to the $1.20 per $1,000 that Oakland retailers normally pay. The tax is not limited to weapons, but is imposed upon all of the store's merchandise, which includes books, fishing gear and other outdoor equipment.---

http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/14110/edition_id/273/format/html/displaystory.html

Thanks a lot liberal putzheads! Next time a Democrat tells you they don't want to take your guns remember this story.


18 posted on 06/29/2005 10:47:19 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Paul Atreides
I shudder to think how the new Supreme Court ruling will figure into these plans.

Considering market prices, the court is probably working on the "just compensation" part to make takings a little more affordable to cities.

19 posted on 06/29/2005 10:48:23 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: upchuck
2003 I migrated from Louisville, KY to Aiken, SC.

Funny you should mention that - in 2003 we migrated 100 miles south from Dover, DE 100 miles south to a rural Virginia county - for all of the same reasons - and are thrilled with it!

20 posted on 06/29/2005 10:48:46 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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