Bush's guest-worker proposal lured illegal entrants, poll says [Gag order was issued]

Wire Reports via Arizona Daily Star ^ | 29 June 2005 | Wire Reports

[Spiff]

How many criminal invaders, lured by Bush's, Kolbe's, Flake's, and McCain's promises of amnesty, crossed the border? We'll never know. How many DIED in the desert because of it? We'll never know. This is an outrage.

[FearNoMan]

...and I'm too fat because McDonald's sells me the meals I order...

I didn't kill that person, the gun did...

It's not my fault, the President of the United States made me cross the American border illegally...

PUKE! DOUBLE PUKE!!

[joesnuffy]

The outrage is the millions of terrorists of the Marxist, Narco,Gang,Disease Carrier, and Islamic bent crossed the borders along with many violent
criminals... murderers,rapists,theives,

[cripplecreek]

It's going to continue to get worse as long as there are cowards and partisan slaves afraid to rock the boat.

[inquest]

Your last example is in no way analogous to the first two. The point of this article wasn't to exculpate illegals for illegally entering the country. It was to expose the President for having encouraged them. And yes, encouraging crime is itself criminal.

[bayourod]

Typical Judicial Watch scam. Now they want to sue the President for proposing legislation.

If President Bush had not made his proposed reforms public, but instead had gotten Congress to secretly pass the legislation they would be suing over the secrecy.

Like everything else, when the smoke clears, Judicial Watch will once again be proven to be fools.

[Spiff]

The scandal is that the White House issued a gag order to the Department of Homeland Security - not to protect a national secret or national security - but for political purposes. Bush wanted to protect his reward-the-criminal-invaders scheme at all costs and ordered the poll and its results to be suppressed. This is the kind of thing that screams for Congressional hearings, indictments, etc.

[lilylangtree]

The Bush Administration has one problem beginning from Day 1 of his Administration--their immigration policy stinks to high heaven. With the latest actions, the policy still stinks. What a weakness!

[McGavin999]

If it was interpreted as an amnisty program it's the media's fault, and a lot of the folks here as well. Bush clearly stated that it would NOT include amnisty.

[Spiff]

Typical Judicial Watch scam. Now they want to sue the President for proposing legislation. If President Bush had not made his proposed reforms public, but instead had gotten Congress to secretly pass the legislation they would be suing over the secrecy. Like everything else, when the smoke clears, Judicial Watch will once again be proven to be fools.

You need to check those reading comprehension skills.

This is about the announcement of the reward-the-criminal-invaders scheme causing a massive influx of border intruders many of which cited their reason for crossing as the promise of amnesty given by the President. We knew this right after the President announced his support for the reward-the-criminal-invaders scheme and now documents have been uncovered which prove it. In addition, a memo has come to light which was a gag order on the Border Patrol to hide the poll and its results. Bad stuff.

[FearNoMan]

"Your last example is in no way analogous to the first two. The point of this article wasn't to exculpate illegals for illegally entering the country. It was to expose the President for having encouraged them. And yes, encouraging crime is itself criminal."

I've got a thousand dollars with your name on if you can show me where in this article or otherwise; it says those in search of the guest worker program are exempt from current U.S. law.

[FearNoMan]

Indeed they will!

[Stellar Dendrite]

If another attack occurs, and we find out that the individuals crossed the border illegally....Bush will have screwed the Republican party's political power for a long, long, long time.

I hope that's not the case, if something did happen we'd be done with electing these fake conservatives and get someone in the WH that seems genuine enough....George Allen!!

[Travis McGee]

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U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

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Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

[NJ_gent]

"Now they want to sue the President for proposing legislation."

It seems to me they want to find out what's going on in our government. Transparency in government affairs is something we've been demanding of less free countries for decades.

"If President Bush had not made his proposed reforms public, but instead had gotten Congress to secretly pass the legislation they would be suing over the secrecy."

Only tyrannies require secret laws.

[johnmecainrino]

What about Ted Kennedy's proposal.

What about Hillary and all the dems voting for the ag bill so all illegals that work for a year could get amnesty. Gop blocked that bill.

What about Hillary railing against the real id act.

What about Howard Dean railing against Arnold for supporting the minutemen.

Hillary and Kerry are against the predator drones on the border that help us catch illegals.

The aclu and democrat enviornmentalists are fighting against a fence on the border.

Bill Clinton's policy on illegals was to drop them right back across the border for the few they did that with Bush at least has them sent inland.

Democrats are against Senator Kyl's plan for 10,000 more troops and Bush has said he is for that.


What exactly did Bill Clinton do for the borders. I can't name one democrat tough on illegals they want their votes, coddle to the aclu, and democrats get a third of their money from agriculture lobbyists that love illegals.

Democrats in states have pushed for laws to allow illegals to get in state tuition charges.

Democrats want illegals to get affirmative action.

The democrats are the enemy on this issue.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Spiff]

If it was interpreted as an amnisty program it's the media's fault, and a lot of the folks here as well. Bush clearly stated that it would NOT include amnisty.

If he did, then he lied. I don't remember him saying that it would not "include" amnesty. He may have said it was not an amnesty. Either way, he's misleading as it is a form of amnesty.

[Spiff]

The democrats are the enemy on this issue.

I don't demy that the Democrats are one of the enemies on this issue. There are also some in our own party that are the enemies on this issue (Kolbe, Flake, McCain, etc).

[NJ_gent]

"If it was interpreted as an amnisty program it's the media's fault, and a lot of the folks here as well. Bush clearly stated that it would NOT include amnisty."

The President may state that the sky is green and grass is blue, but that does not alter reality.

From Merriam-Webster,

• Amnesty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
• Pardon: 2) the excusing of an offense without exacting a penalty 3a) a release from the legal penalties of an offense 3b) an official warrant of remission of penalty

Question to consider: does the proposal put forth by President Bush allow those who have broken the law to escape punishment legally?

Answer: Yes.

From even the most basic comprehension of the English language, we learn that any argument stating this proposal is anything other than amnesty is a complete and total farce intended to confuse those who allow or will themselves to be confused. It is, by definition, amnesty.