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A scolding from Miss Rice
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 27, 2005 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/28/2005 8:40:46 PM PDT by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

From the Washington Post to the Wall Street Journal to the Financial Times, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is being hailed for her latest public scolding of America's Arab allies.

In what columnist David Ignatius calls the "signature line" of her speech at the American University in Cairo, Rice declared:

For 60 years, my country, the United States, pursued stability at the expense of democracy in this region here in the Middle East, and we achieved neither. Now, we are taking a different course.

What is it about Rice's speech that makes it so off-putting and irritating?

First, in treating friends, common decency and diplomacy – and the Good Book, as well – teach us that private admonition is preferable to the public declamation, which is often the mark of the hypocrite.

Second, Rice's public scolding fairly reeks of moral arrogance. Unlike my purblind predecessors, Rice is telling us, my president and I are moved by a higher, nobler cause. While we fight for democracy for Arabs and Muslims, my predecessors, going back to World War II, were only interested in "stability." Thus, they all failed.

The claim is absurd. For Rice's predecessors had to conduct foreign policy during a Cold War in which freedom was at stake and under siege from the greatest enemy the West had known since the Islamic armies invaded France in the eighth century.

Thirty years ago, during Watergate, Richard Nixon ordered a huge arms airlift to save Israel in the Yom Kippur War, for which Golda Meir was eternally grateful. Then, with Dr. Kissinger, he brokered an armistice and effected a severance of Sadat's Egypt from the Soviet Bloc – to the West. Jimmy Carter took it from there, brokering the Camp David peace accords between Egypt and Israel that still hold.

Does Rice believe that because Nixon, Kissinger and Carter did not insist that Sadat hold elections they were on some lesser moral plane than her own virtuous self?

President Bush's father, in the Gulf War, put together a coalition of NATO nations and Arab autocracies, including the Syria of Hafez al-Assad – a ruler no less ruthless than Saddam – to expel Iraq from Kuwait in a six-week war that was a military masterpiece. U.S. casualties were a tenth of those in our current war, an end to which is not remotely in sight.

Was that Bush I achievement diminished because Saudi Arabia, which provided bases and troops, and Kuwait, the nation we rescued, were, neither of them, democracies on the New England model?

From Truman to Bush I, from Acheson to Jim Baker, with rare exceptions, U.S. Middle East policy was crafted, as it should have been, to secure the vital interests of the United States. Who is Rice, and what exactly are her accomplishments, to demean what these men achieved: victory in a half-century Cold War with the Soviet Empire?

There is another problem with this schoolmarmish scolding of Arab nations that aided this country in the Cold War, but have failed to live up to Rice's standards.

Has she or President Bush thought through the consequences should their hectoring succeed in destabilizing and bringing down Saudi Arabia or Egypt? Have they observed how the elections they've been demanding have been going of late?

In southern Lebanon, Hezbollah and the Amal militia took every parliamentary seat. In the West Bank and Gaza, Hamas is so strong the Palestinian Authority postponed the July elections. If Hosni Mubarak held free elections in Egypt, his principal rival would be the Muslim Brotherhood. If the Saudi monarchy should hold elections, Osama bin Laden might not win, but my guess is he makes the runoff.

President Bush is riding for a fall. He sold the war in Iraq to the country on the hard security ground that Saddam had ties to al-Qaida, that he may have had a role in 9-11, that he was hell-bent on getting WMD and atom bombs, and that, when he did, he would give them to fanatics to use on Washington, D.C. The lady who stapled together that false and perhaps falsified case for George Bush was Condi Rice.

Now they tell us the war was about democracy in Iraq and the Middle East – i.e., a nobler cause than any such mundane concerns as American national security.

This is baby boomers working up noble-sounding excuses and preparing high-minded defenses in the event they wind up as failures.

When the Great Society programs of LBJ led to riots, inflation, campus upheaval, crime waves, polarization and a quarter century of almost unbroken Republican rule, liberals exonerated themselves by saying that, even though they had lost the country, they were still blameless, since their motives were so superior to those of their adversaries.

The liberals' defense of the Great Society debacles will be the neocons' defense if we lose the Middle East. But Rice's homilies about how high-minded she was will carry little weight. Americans won't buy it. Just ask Robert McNamara.


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To: iconoclast

LOL, a confused anti-establishment radical!

Agreed!


61 posted on 06/29/2005 10:38:08 AM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: iconoclast
Oh, so there were no links to al-queda and other islamic terrorist groups, no wmds or programs, no firing on coalition aircraft, no links to WTC1 or OKC and saddam lived up to the ceasefire agreement and didn't attempt to kill 2 presidents and the u.n. wasn't allowing iraq to rearm in violation of sanctions.

Are you some kind of Rip Van Winkle?

Not even the Fox News talking heads make these ludicrous claims anymore as to the cause of this debacle.

Since every one of these "ludicrous claims" is supported by evidence, in some cases, overwhelming and irrefutable, I can only assume that in order to believe in your agenda you must also ignore truth and logic. Since that is the case I see no point in wasting our time. Hope the weather is nice in your world. Goodbye.

62 posted on 06/29/2005 10:52:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: roses of sharon
That's your first post in some time that was coherent .. glad to see the meds are kicking in!
63 posted on 06/29/2005 11:05:09 AM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: sinkspur
Hey, it appears to me that you think Pat has a touch of "anti-semitism" in him. Well, there might be something to that. When I was eating breakfast at the International House of Pancakes last month in walked Pat and his wife.

I was surprised and watched him very closely as he and his wife sat down only two tables away from mine. When the waitress arrived his wife ordered pancakes with strawberries and whipped cream. Pat, however, ordered a large plate of "Luftwaffes."
64 posted on 06/29/2005 11:07:26 AM PDT by daviscupper
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To: Eagles6
Goodbye.

Good riddance.

65 posted on 06/29/2005 11:10:43 AM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: iconoclast

You think establishing a Democratic government with pro-western ties is a "puppet" regime?

I guess you were happier with a totalitarian dictatorship which was anti-western, brutally and sadistically oppressed and murdered its own people, supported terrorists, was working on nuclear weapons, tried to assassinate a sitting U.S. President, threatened stability in the Middle East and continually violated the terms of an agreement it had signed which included firing at British and Western Planes trying to enforce the terms of that agreement?

I guess you'd have REALLY like Joe Stalin.


66 posted on 06/29/2005 11:11:19 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: iconoclast
"Glad", ummm, "hope", and "help"? Iconoclast's new lexicon?
67 posted on 06/29/2005 11:17:05 AM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Free markets, free people, free trade, free sovereign nations, free world. Are you really saying our policy should be petty dictators on a short leash so we can control the world? We should lead the free world....that should be our only policy. Those blue fingers and smiling, proud faces aren't produced by supporting petty dictators. And obviously, 50 years of petty dictators didn't prevent 911 but actually produced it!
68 posted on 06/29/2005 11:24:10 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: ZULU
I guess you were happier with a totalitarian dictatorship

As a matter of fact I was perfectly happy with a nearly bled to death, non-threatening cesspool sitting in the midst of much more threatening ME nations.

You might say "let sleeping dying dogs lie"!

The little Napoleonic, pseudo-cowboy thought he was opening up a can of "whup ass" and he unfortunately found it was full of worms.

69 posted on 06/29/2005 11:28:13 AM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: photodawg
And obviously, 50 years of petty dictators didn't prevent 911 but actually produced it!

Arguably, the demise of empire is what led to 911. When the Europeans and the Brits maintained control over backward places, order was maintained. Same with American protectorates. With local control has come mob rule, chaos, and the rise of terrorism. Look at Canada ;-). "Leading the free world" is a fine-sounding platitude, but it hasn't worked in practice. Condi has no historical precedent for asserting that we're going to make it happen in the Middle east or anywhere else, purple fingers notwithstanding.

70 posted on 06/29/2005 11:35:48 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: iconoclast
In reply to your request, Iconoclast, your first argument states:

"But we COULD have taken the Willie Sutton approach and gone to where the terrorists ARE, instead of creating a new, huge nest of them."

Since you capitalize "ARE", I assume you feel we should have attacked elsewhere (correct me if I'm wrong). Could you please articulate where you believe the terrorists currently are, and where we should attack them?



Pzifer: “> Pzifer: “Viagra won’t cause dementia or blindness". (Except if one wears a Black Robe, whereupon it can cause loss of property and other minor Constitutional rights.)

Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

71 posted on 06/29/2005 12:10:35 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: iconoclast

I guess we can agree we disagree on this issue.


72 posted on 06/29/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Could you please articulate where you believe the terrorists currently are, and where we should attack them?

Pleased to present you with this BULLETIN!

P A K I S T A N !

(It's a couple countries east of where our boys and girls are dying and losing limbs.)

73 posted on 06/29/2005 12:40:06 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: iconoclast
PAKISTAN! ***************

Iconoclast,

That's it. Only in Pakistan. No where else? Just trying to make sure I understand your analysis, so that we can have an informed discussion. All terrorists are in Pakistan.


Pzifer: “> Pzifer: “Viagra won’t cause dementia or blindness". (Except if one wears a Black Robe, whereupon it can cause loss of property and other minor Constitutional rights.)

Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

74 posted on 06/29/2005 12:51:42 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Could you please articulate where you believe the terrorists currently are, and where we should attack them?

I'm pleased to forward you this bulletin!

1) The general is in P A K I S T A N !
2) The instigators and financiers are in .. S A U D I .. A R A B I A !

Glad to be of service!

Go Here

75 posted on 06/29/2005 1:09:06 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: sirthomasthemore
And a whole bunch of crazies are in Iraq.

Are you glad we drew them there a got distracted from the real job?

76 posted on 06/29/2005 1:12:40 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
Are you glad we drew them there a got distracted from the real job?

****************

All right, Iconoclast. Once again, as you try to educate me on your position, from your 3 posts, I now understand your view is that all terrorists are in Pakistan, funded solely by Saudi Arabia, but now the US has drawn the terrorists into Iraq?

I'm genuinely trying to follow you. Is that your position?


Pzifer: “Viagra won’t cause dementia or blindness". (Except if one wears a Black Robe, whereupon it can cause loss of property and other minor Constitutional rights.)

Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

77 posted on 06/29/2005 1:23:12 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
It looks like he believes that since Bush IS Napoleon, that he should ACT like Napoleon and go into Pak that has nukes, and instead of our soldiers loosing limbs, they could be incinerated instead!!

Yea, that's the ticket.
78 posted on 06/29/2005 1:30:26 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: roses of sharon
Actually Roses, I'm still trying to ascertain what his exact position is. I'm a little slow on the take, but he's being very patient with me. -:0)


Pzifer: “Viagra won’t cause dementia or blindness". (Except if one wears a Black Robe, whereupon it can cause loss of property and other minor Constitutional rights.)

Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

79 posted on 06/29/2005 1:45:49 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Are you announcing the demise of the "American Empire" as signaled by 911?


80 posted on 06/29/2005 1:54:43 PM PDT by photodawg
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