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US, Canada and Mexico rollout border plans
World Peace Herald ^ | June 28, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 06/28/2005 8:09:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: jeremiah
What is the point of pandering to hispanics? Unless we control our borders we don't have a country. Citizens of this country must take off the blinders, we are approaching a point similar to Lexington-Concord. I believe we will let our liberty slip away, it is too uncomfortable to upset the status quo. Yes, I am wearing a three cornered tin foil hat.

Either that or we will Balkanize, Yugoslavia on steroids. I do think and wonder if the tin-foilers are right on some things.
41 posted on 06/29/2005 9:25:24 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

BTTT


42 posted on 06/29/2005 9:25:29 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: hedgetrimmer

Bad news bump.


43 posted on 06/29/2005 9:28:42 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Trusted traveler programs enable people who provide biometric personal data -- like fingerprints or iris scans -- pay a fee and submit to background checks to use special travel lanes at border crossings.

All border crossers are created equal. Some border crossers are more equal than others...


44 posted on 06/29/2005 9:33:57 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: bayourod
Put me in charge and I will cut down the illegals(Mexico side) to a trickle.

15ft electrical fence on the outside. 20ft concrete wall in the middle(100 yards from each electrical fence.) Claymore mines littered throughout.

It appears to me that you want them to have unfettered access.

45 posted on 06/29/2005 10:48:13 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK
Put me in charge and I will cut down the illegals(Mexico side) to a trickle.

15ft electrical fence on the outside. 20ft concrete wall in the middle(100 yards from each electrical fence.) Claymore mines littered throughout.

It appears to me that you want them to have unfettered access.


I once suggested something similar to my father and I added, "we can also dump radioactive waste there too." He had a huge grin and added, "good idea, at least we can see them glow at night." B-)
46 posted on 06/29/2005 10:59:25 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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Ping

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47 posted on 06/29/2005 11:41:44 AM PDT by madfly
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To: bayourod; hedgetrimmer
It's simply a measure to increase security.

Horse$hit. It's government control of your movements. Worse, the United States will be forced to accept MEXICO'S opinion of who constitutes a "trusted traveller"!

Internal passport anyone?

48 posted on 06/29/2005 11:46:21 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: cripplecreek; hedgetrimmer

"Trusted Traveler" = an icky euphemism that translates into the "toe in the door" to the North American Union or whatever other euphemism they have for it.


49 posted on 06/29/2005 11:58:52 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks, B4Ranch. I got run off a Jessica Simpson thread because I said she seemed to be on drugs. That really got some freepers in a twist.

The red meat is here, with the real issues.


50 posted on 06/29/2005 12:01:59 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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Currently, the U.S. and Canada have two pilot projects for frequent cross-border travelers: NEXUS for airline passengers and FAST for land crossings. The plan is to extend this to maritime passengers (dubbed the SENTRI program) and to have all three "trusted traveler" programs cover all three North American countries.

51 posted on 06/29/2005 12:06:42 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: TheCrusader

It's not only puzzling, but is directly contradictory. How can we ask our troops to come home to this..?


52 posted on 06/29/2005 12:09:04 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: La Enchiladita
How can we ask our troops to come home to this..?

I was thinking that yesterday. How shameful that we put them in harms way, and make them sacrifice for an ideal that cannot exist in the America that is taking shape under "free trade".
53 posted on 06/29/2005 12:14:49 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: La Enchiladita; hedgetrimmer
It's not only puzzling, but is directly contradictory. How can we ask our troops to come home to this..?

It is truly shameful.

Perhaps an email to LouDobbs@cnn.com expressing this would be an idea.

Just saw on MSNBC where a mom is pissed because the us gov showed on her caller id when a recruiter called her 16 year old daughter without fully identifying himself. Offering her perks to quit school, get a GED, Blah blah. Woman said that a police officer cannot talk to a minor without parental presence and permission, then why can the goverment military recruiters discuss careers with a minor without parental permission?

Found out there's a federal law that schools have to provide recruiters with home information on High School seniors.

54 posted on 06/29/2005 12:30:10 PM PDT by madfly (Tom Cruise..If there's no such thing as a brain chemical imbalance, why are you off your rocker?)
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To: Carry_Okie
"Internal passport anyone? "

Isn't that exactly what the anti-immigrants want? Military troops with checkpoints saying "Papers please"?

55 posted on 06/29/2005 12:34:35 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod

No its what the "free traders" want. You see, they want everyone in the hemisphere to take advantage of America, but they still want the American citizen to support them with their taxes and lives in the US military. That would be the only reason for the "papers".

Notice that "papers" weren't needed until the globalist "free traders" corrupted our government.


56 posted on 06/29/2005 12:54:25 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: La Enchiladita

>>The red meat is here, with the real issues.<<

But this is ugly red meat and you won't smile for hours.

My wife and my kids are what can bring the quickest smile to my face today. It is because of them that I read this ugly stuff. I want to know what is out there and how to protect them from reality crashing their dreams.


57 posted on 06/29/2005 12:54:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Exactly right, and with no input, vote, or even discussion allowed....let alone information. Notice the euphemism of the day for illegal aliens by the millions pouring over the border: 'trusted travelers'. Is smoke coming out of your ears yet?


58 posted on 06/29/2005 1:05:18 PM PDT by hershey
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To: bayourod
Isn't that exactly what the anti-immigrants want? Military troops with checkpoints saying "Papers please"?

Are you talking about anti-immigrants, anti-illegal immigrants, or both? If a foreigner is a legal immigrant, then he has our permission to come to the United States. Why would anybody have a problem with that? Also, any foreigner who legally comes to the United States is already required to show his "Papers please" when he arrives here.

59 posted on 06/29/2005 1:21:49 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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60 posted on 06/29/2005 2:00:02 PM PDT by madfly
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