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No Tenure for War Supporter
WISH TV . com ^ | 6/23/05 | Mary McDermott

Posted on 06/28/2005 3:35:14 PM PDT by Kimmers

Law Prof Worries Iraq War Views May Cost Him Chance at Tenure Jun 27, 2005, 7:32 PM Professor William Bradford

By Mary McDermott 24 Hour News 8

A law professor at Indiana University worries he's not going to get tenure and says his views on the war in Iraq are part of the reason why.

Professor William Bradford has degrees from Harvard and Northwestern Universities, and law students at Indiana University voted him the best new teacher of the year.

"I think he's one of the best professors around here. You can debate him on anything all day and he'll enjoy it,” said Brian Deiwert, an IU Law School graduate.

But four years into his career at IU, William Bradford is wondering whether he'll be asked to stay permanently. "I hope to be able to stay here but I don't think that I'll be able to for reasons not of my own making."

Bradford is a veteran of Desert Storm and will be eligible for tenure in a few years. But he says two tenured professors are trying to prevent him in getting it, partly because he supports the war in Iraq.

"Florence Roisman's trying to allege that because I have viewpoints that are different from hers in terms of the war on terror - she thinks it's an aggressive war; I think it's a just war, to liberate the people there and help enhance our security. Because of that difference of opinion, I am a bad person. I am an uncollegial person. I need to be politically cleansed,” said Bradford.

The issue is generating talk on the IUPUI campus. Students sent a letter of support for Bradford to the law school dean. There's also plenty of discussion about the topic on a law school blog.

The administration at IUPUI says Bradford will get a "fair shake….because there are many levels to the tenure process.”

"So there will be a number of people looking at it and a number of people beyond the law school that will be involved in the decision,” said Richard Schneider, IUPUI spokesperson.

Bradford says he's not sure of that and says he plans to see what options are available for him beyond the IU School of Law.


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KEYWORDS: indiana; indianauniversity; iu; iupui
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Another fine example of the "tolerant" left
1 posted on 06/28/2005 3:35:15 PM PDT by Kimmers
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He's proven he can teach, based on the reviews of the students, but how's his research. Essentially, tenure decisions come down to whether or not you've published. Teaching is an afterthought in the process.
Is this possibly a preemptive strike to cloud the issue because he is not publishing?


2 posted on 06/28/2005 3:39:37 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203

I knew a professor who failed to get tenure because he loved to teach, but didn't care to do research. Imagine that -- not giving tenure to a professor because he loved to teach!


3 posted on 06/28/2005 3:42:33 PM PDT by My2Cents ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: NC28203

That is an excellent point...


4 posted on 06/28/2005 3:43:26 PM PDT by Kimmers
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Wasn't it IU that allowed a porn flick to be filmed at its dorms?


Well, perhaps it's time for the good professor to find another university...ahhhh Texas A&M, University of Tennessee, University of Alabama...ahhhh University of South Carolina...are some that come to mind.


6 posted on 06/28/2005 3:47:55 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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He probably debated the tenured Professors and they didn't like it!


7 posted on 06/28/2005 3:47:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Kimmers

OF COURSE he can't have tenure! He thinks differently from a NORMAL college professor.

Actually, this guy has a great Hollywood face. If he can act, he'd be a natural. When I first saw the picture, I thought it was a scene from a movie.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 3:48:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SwinneySwitch

That's entirely possible. Burned his proverbial bridges, so to speak.


9 posted on 06/28/2005 3:48:31 PM PDT by My2Cents ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Yes about the porn....my husbands last day at IU school of medicine is July 1....yes he is tenured....people have concerns if the medical school is going to be around much longer....no money in this state for medical care but we can build a new dome for the Colts....


10 posted on 06/28/2005 3:51:36 PM PDT by Kimmers
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I agree. It's pretty lethal to come out four years into the seven year process screaming that you're not going to get tenure. This is no way to win friends and influence people. It's also no way to get a shot at another university opportunity.

He may be a great guy and it may be true that he's being discriminated against, but this isn't the way to go about resolving it.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 3:53:35 PM PDT by Endeavor
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IUPUI Professor Florence Roisman, eh?

I thought that name sounded familiar

12 posted on 06/28/2005 3:55:44 PM PDT by kanawa (Faith, Freedom, Family)
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To: Kimmers

Talk about a university with the wrong set of priorities!


13 posted on 06/28/2005 3:57:12 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: NC28203

"Teaching is an afterthought in the process. "

This is true even in fields where there is very little to publish and excellant teaching skills can be a huge benefit to the students.
This is another system that is broken.
The system does not attract the best and brightest as a rule anymore, imho....


14 posted on 06/28/2005 3:57:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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IU used to be pretty conservative for a Big Ten institution, until Myles Brand arrived in town from Oregon. He's the one who fired Bob Knight. The school hasn't been the same since. Michael Ledeen wrote a great story about it several years ago, writing how Brand fired Knight essentially to mask his failure as president. Now Knight goes to the Sweet 16 with Texas Tech. Screw IU.


15 posted on 06/28/2005 4:00:16 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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Professor Bradford is a frequent commentator in local and national media on laws of war issues regarding Iraq and the War on Terror. (UILAW)

Professor Florence Roisman seems to be an advocate for the Homeless, the Poor and Minorities based on her publications.
16 posted on 06/28/2005 4:04:53 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The best and the brightest are leaving academics which leaves me to wonder who is doing the teaching?


17 posted on 06/28/2005 4:05:22 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: kanawa

Thank you for refreshing our memory...impressive


18 posted on 06/28/2005 4:06:58 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; jempet; CurlyBill; HitmanNY; Alouette; tet68; Teacher317; Paul Atreides; ...

Florence Roisman Ping


19 posted on 06/28/2005 4:08:03 PM PDT by kanawa (Faith, Freedom, Family)
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Ones that that could not be employed elsewhere.
My wife was applied for tenure at a major university. She is intelligent and hardworking. The leftist kooky people that were brought for the tenured positions definitely wouldn't be hired anywhere else.
She got the message and is now in a much better position and in a vastly better peer group.
20 posted on 06/28/2005 4:12:46 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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