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CA: Dairy cows branded top smog hogs (EnviroWacko Alert!)
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/28/05 | Sarah Ruby

Posted on 06/28/2005 9:25:23 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Dairies cause more smog than cars, according to the San Joaquin Valley air district.

Recent science shows milk cows produce at least 60 percent more smog-forming chemicals than previous estimates, which were based on aging studies, valley air officials say.

And that's "likely to be an underestimate," said Rick McVaigh, director of permit services for the air district, which released a draft pollution-per-cow estimate Monday.

Dairy industry representatives are outraged that the district would rely on incomplete and irrelevant science, they say.

"It's unbelievable what they've come up with," said Michael Boccadoro, spokesman for a dairy lobbying group known as Community Alliance for Responsible Environmental Stewardship. "It's a joke."

That the air district hasn't calculated exactly how many tons of pollution dairies produce didn't stop it from announcing that milk cows are once again the valley's largest source of smog-forming gases.

State regulators had moved milk cows from first to sixth place last month -- behind trucks, cars, oil and gas production, pesticides and consumer products -- when it recalculated 1930s data.

But stakeholders now have a new generation of data to haggle over. Some admire the district's chutzpah, and others criticize its estimate as inflated by foreign studies completed under circumstances far different from those at California dairies.

"It's critical they get the number right (or we'll be) chasing emissions that don't exist," said Boccadoro. "(The district) has managed to mess it up."

Last week the state air board declared emissions data from dairies incomplete, prompting it to regulate dairies by size rather than total emissions. That was prudent, he said, this was not.

But others say the district is right to be protective, and to look outside California for answers if it must.

"I think (the district's number) reflects additional research of the literature," said Bakersfield resident Bill Descary, who sat on a panel advising the district on dairy emissions. "We don't want dairies to invest in equipment that's not needed, (but) if it is needed, it's critical."

That panel, which included dairy people and environmentalists, couldn't agree on the science. The district's announcement broke their tie.

Last week's state air board action dealt with existing dairies, establishing which ones will have to upgrade their facilities to cut pollution.

The district's latest announcement mostly affects new dairies, which will likely have to change the way they handle manure and possibly cover lagoons, among other precautions, district officials say.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: branded; california; cows; diary; hogs; sanjoaquin; smog; wellofthesenate
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1 posted on 06/28/2005 9:25:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The only solution - STEAKS FOR EVERYONE!


2 posted on 06/28/2005 9:26:16 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: FreedomFarmer; Diana in Wisconsin

Considering the other thread, I thought this might interest you both.


3 posted on 06/28/2005 9:29:45 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: SittinYonder; NormsRevenge
The only solution - STEAKS FOR EVERYONE!

This is just a ploy to turn us all into Vegans by declaring cows an environmental hazard. Ban Dairy and Cattle Farms and there's no butter, cheese, or beef for us to eat.

4 posted on 06/28/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: SittinYonder

Sounds good to me!


5 posted on 06/28/2005 9:32:05 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is idiotic ... Smog from dairy cows? The worst smog I've ever seen was in LA. I don't recall seeing any cows there. I have seen dairy cows other places, though. Wasn't much smog.

Hmmmmmm.....

6 posted on 06/28/2005 9:34:15 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Recent science shows milk cows produce at least 60 percent more smog-forming chemicals than previous estimates, which were based on aging studies, valley air officials say.

I am assuming the article is talking about methane?

7 posted on 06/28/2005 9:34:32 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: NormsRevenge

So we give the cows "Beano".


Problem solved!

:-)


8 posted on 06/28/2005 9:35:10 AM PDT by tiamat ("If some guy named Marduk calls, tell him I'm not home!")
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To: NormsRevenge

There was a methane tax enacted in New Zealand. You'll never guess what the dairy farmers there started calling it!


9 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:19 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: FormerLib
This is just a ploy to turn us all into Vegans

No way!!!!! I'm not interested in driving a Vega:

And you can't make me!

10 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If I thought I could effectively drive one more enviro-wacko crazy, I would trade in my SUV for a big, honking cow. Personally I believe large herds of rush hour cattle would make the left long for days of Explorers and 4Runners.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 9:38:25 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: FormerLib

Yep, it sounds like PETA-inspired whacko veggie flatulence, for sure.


12 posted on 06/28/2005 9:38:33 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
This is idiotic ... Smog from dairy cows? The worst smog I've ever seen was in LA. I don't recall seeing any cows there. I have seen dairy cows other places, though. Wasn't much smog.

It's invisible smog caused by SUV-owning cows. *Bela Lugosi voice* It's there. Beware. Take care. Beware.

13 posted on 06/28/2005 9:39:54 AM PDT by Blue Champagne (Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The worst smog I've ever seen was in LA. I don't recall seeing any cows there. I have seen dairy cows other places, though. Wasn't much smog.

Interesting observation. What does LA have that cow country does not that could be causing the smog??

THAT'S IT! We must stop Hollywood leftists from spewing immediately -- Hollywood Leftists Are The Cause OF Smog!!!

14 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:28 AM PDT by Cowman (Just when you hit the bottom of the stupid hole you notice the guy next to you is digging)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not only the silent belching as cows chew their cud, or the gaseous flatulence emitted almost continuously, as cattle wastes are flushed away to storage lagoons, the decomposition of organic mater CONTINUES to form methane.

But wait a minute. What is methane? A colorless, nearly odorless gas, that has LOWER density than most components of the air we breath, which causes it to rise, and disperse into the atmosphere, never concentrating sufficiently to become either a flash-fire hazard, or to cause any noticable physical effects on those who happen to breathe it in (your exhaled breath has small quantities of methane, as well as other exhalations from your body). In the atmosphere, in the presence of O2 (or ozone, which is O3), some amount of this free methane is oxidized into CO2 and water vapor. So methane doesn't hang around long, and is quickly processed in the biosphere.


15 posted on 06/28/2005 9:46:01 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Cowman
Hollywood Leftists Are The Cause OF Smog!!!

It's probably some sort of wierd outgassing from all the silicone boobies and bleach-blonde hair.

16 posted on 06/28/2005 9:46:06 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Blurblogger; LibertarianInExile; speedy

Have ya'll herd about this? Udder nonsense that cows make more pollution than Limousines. Anjou better reply to my ping. Charolais you will.


17 posted on 06/28/2005 9:48:03 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
It's probably some sort of weird outgassing from all the silicone boobies and bleach-blonde hair.

So their political positions are caused by chemical induced brain damage.

Another of my theories substantiated by speculation.

18 posted on 06/28/2005 9:50:04 AM PDT by Cowman (Just when you hit the bottom of the stupid hole you notice the guy next to you is digging)
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To: NormsRevenge
By this reasoning then, and I am surprised someone hasn't countered these guys with it yet, then the time period that had the most smog in history should have been when large herbivores roamed the earth in the hundreds of millions. During the early years of settling this country the buffalo alone numbered millons, I believe thew estimate is 10 or so million, sometimes it would take a herd 3 days of more to pass a given site.

Don't these wackos know that this stuff is self defeating and can easily be countered? Smog should have overwhelmed the world back then, bringing life to its knees with all the methane floating around!

19 posted on 06/28/2005 9:51:25 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge

State mandated Cowalytic Converters and requiring your cow to be smogged ever two years to renew you tags?


20 posted on 06/28/2005 9:54:05 AM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me..)
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