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Senators Laud Treatment of Detainees in Guantánamo(Buried on A-19, NY TIMES)
N Y Times ^ | June 28, 2005 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 06/28/2005 9:19:09 AM PDT by Ramonan

Senators from both sides of the aisle competed on Monday to extol the humane treatment of detainees whom they said they saw on a weekend trip to the military detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. All said they opposed closing the center.

"I feel very good" about the detainees' treatment, Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, said.

That feeling was also expressed by another Democrat, Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

On Monday, Senator Jim Bunning, Republican of Kentucky, said he learned while visiting Guantánamo that some detainees "even have air-conditioning and semiprivate showers."

Another Republican, Senator Michael D. Crapo of Idaho, said soldiers and sailors at the camp "get more abuse from the detainees than they give to the detainees."

Mr. Wyden and Mr. Nelson were in Cuba primarily to discuss new agricultural trade and visited Guantánamo on Sunday. They ran into Mr. Bunning, Mr. Crapo and Senator Johnny Isakson, Republican of Georgia, who traveled to Guantánamo for the day on Sunday "to see for ourselves what all the so-called fuss is about down there," as Mr. Bunning put it.

After the trip, Mr. Wyden argued that Congress should establish treatment standards for detainees like those at Guantánamo who are neither uniformed members of foreign military forces under the Geneva Conventions nor citizens under the United States justice system.

In contrast, Mr. Crapo praised the current military procedures.

An official of Amnesty International, Jumana Musa, dismissed the visits as "this little Congressional show and tell." Ms. Musa said the statements did not address what she called the inadequate investigation of reported abuses.

"Whether or not people are being fed orange chicken," Ms. Musa said, "does not get at the heart of the issue."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; bias; gitmo; mistreatment; nyt; terror; torture

1 posted on 06/28/2005 9:19:12 AM PDT by Ramonan
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To: Ramonan
"Whether or not people are being fed orange chicken," Ms. Musa said, "does not get at the heart of the issue."

It is not the evidence presented, it is the seriousness of the charge.
2 posted on 06/28/2005 9:22:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (I think I'll have the Orange Glazed Chicken Entree today - Here at CLUB GITMO!)
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To: Kerretarded

Sort of like "fake but accurate?" Amazing, the way a liberal "mind" works.


3 posted on 06/28/2005 9:24:25 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Ramonan
Buried on A-19, NY TIMES

Hear me now, believe me later:

As far as the MSM is concerned, if a given story does not advance the agenda, it is not news.

(steely)

4 posted on 06/28/2005 9:25:30 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Ramonan; All

Jumana Musa, a lawyer, .. a muslim ?

http://www.augustafreepress.com/stories/storyReader$34964

5 posted on 06/28/2005 10:10:44 AM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: Ramonan
Well, in all fairness (I'm in a fairness mood today), would you expect any mistreatment of prisoners during a visit by US Senators?

That's rhetorical, btw.

I feel mild physical torture to extract needed intel is okay, and acute mental torture should be SOP for all of these prisoners.

6 posted on 06/28/2005 10:14:59 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Ramonan

Dang! These murdering terrorists need to treated commensurate with their crimes not mollycoddled.


7 posted on 06/28/2005 10:17:45 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Ramonan

Realistically, we shouldn't even have Gitmo. If we followed the Geneva Convention to the letter, we would have to execute - on the spot - all these detainees because they are unlawful combatants, and they do not fight under a country's flag, and don't wear the uniform. Therefore, they are terrorists, and subject to field justice.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 10:19:28 AM PDT by Maigrey (TC, Kick that cancer in the @$$ - Texas Termite (shame on you with such language!))
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To: Ramonan

Someone needs to set up an Internet chart showing --the story, --the MSM news source and, --the page number, if reported!


9 posted on 06/28/2005 10:20:46 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


10 posted on 06/28/2005 10:28:55 AM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a pn comes together.)
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To: Random Nonsense

If Musa wishes to remain one-sided and remain on the side of the enemy (Al-Qaeda believes and supports the same motives as she does), then so be it. This will only make Amnesty International appear more ridiculous.
ANOTHER CLUE:
http://www.peacecouncil.net/pnl/04/735/735guantanamo.html#jumana
Jumana, a native Syracusan who volunteered with Syracuse PEACE Council during high school, is a lawyer and staff member of Amnesty International.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 10:47:46 AM PDT by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: Ramonan

12 posted on 06/28/2005 10:49:19 AM PDT by petercooper (Put Mark Levin on the Supreme Court.)
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To: petercooper

GREAT!


13 posted on 06/28/2005 10:51:06 AM PDT by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: Ramonan

I'm actually suprised that they printed this at all.


14 posted on 06/28/2005 10:54:53 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Ramonan
Yeah.. I am also looking at her name, which does sound arabic, Jumana is 'Pearl', and Musa is arabic and turkish version of 'Moses'.

So I reckon she's either a Turkish or an Arab descent. Hence a good possibility that she's a muslim.

15 posted on 06/28/2005 10:54:56 AM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: Maigrey
Realistically, we shouldn't even have Gitmo. If we followed the Geneva Convention to the letter, we would have to execute - on the spot - all these detainees because they are unlawful combatants, and they do not fight under a country's flag, and don't wear the uniform. Therefore, they are terrorists, and subject to field justice.

That's the sanest thing I've read in a long time.

Thank you!
16 posted on 06/28/2005 10:58:51 AM PDT by yobid
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To: Random Nonsense

Someone had to come along to replace Helen Thomas.


17 posted on 06/28/2005 11:04:35 AM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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