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To: chris1

You are absolutely right. What is happening to our country is not only disgraceful, it is downright scary.

I'm getting flamed on another board here because I made the "outrageous" claim that there is very little difference between the pubs and dems. I said that they are now basically the same party that only differ in what they say to get into power; once there they act exactly the same. It makes me wonder if both major parties keep their supporters argueing with each other on purpose so that they can both continue to rape us while we're distracted.


27 posted on 06/28/2005 6:32:41 AM PDT by frankiep
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To: frankiep
Depends on the issue. There are massive differences between the Dims and the Repubs. Mostly on the issue of Nationalism and civic duty.

On the front that most people deal with on a daily basis, no... there is no difference. Both seem to want less Constitution and Rights, and more power for themselves. There are only a handful in either house, one or two Justices, and a couple pundits that can truly be called "conservative". That as far as a domestic agenda goes, Bush cannot be numbered among them, is sad if not unexpected. We knew Bush wasn't the worlds Greatest Conservative when we elected him. He just wasn't as bad as Kerry. The President could go a long way towards fixing that image if he would have done something, ANYTHING, with his Veto stamp to slow down the increase in the Fed Budget. Vetoing anything at this point would almost seem out of character.

Our Country was lost a long time ago. The FedGov has BEEN completely off the hook for some time now. Some put it during the Clinton years, some to LBJ, some like me back to Lincoln. The loss of being able to exercise our Natural Rights without having to worry about some government agent or another wanting to arrest or kill us, is undeniable.

Whining about it won't change things either. Stirring up things here by trying to directly equate Republicans and Democrats isn't going to do any good either. Don't just call people names. Work to change those ideas that you can, leave the Bots alone. Don't let their slander go unchallenged, but don't just attack them without giving the facts as you see them either.

And yes, the Big Two Party system has been accused of coercion here before as well. However, extreme claims require extreme evidence. If you have evidence of such collusion, post it in a thread.

"Most men move to the political center. Great men MOVE the center."

38 posted on 06/28/2005 6:47:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: frankiep

There is no difference. My friends laugh at me for going to Florida for a week to volunteer in 2004 to help re-elect GWB.
I can only agree with them at this point and even feel like I have some part in this chaos.

I live in NY. It is sad to see how bad the RATS and RINOs are. Both are terrible and squander our money.


39 posted on 06/28/2005 6:51:02 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: frankiep

Different shades of gray


43 posted on 06/28/2005 7:05:53 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: frankiep
I'm getting flamed on another board here because I made the "outrageous" claim that there is very little difference between the pubs and dems. I said that they are now basically the same party that only differ in what they say to get into power; once there they act exactly the same. It makes me wonder if both major parties keep their supporters argueing with each other on purpose so that they can both continue to rape us while we're distracted.

I believe you are right to an extent, but I think you give too much credit to a conspiracy, as it were.

What it really comes down to, is the money. Large companies and wealthy individuals donate a lot of money to the parties to have some kind of influence. They benefit from this ruling. Therefore, neither party will come out trashing this attack against our freedoms.

The other thing is, people expect President Bush to do something, yet he and his business partners profited from eminent domain. I would love to hear him address this, but I don't think it'll happen.

It's unfortunate it's not a campaign year - at some point somebody would get a chance at asking him about this, or try to make it an issue.
51 posted on 06/28/2005 8:05:23 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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