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To: Schwaeky
They still had a worm gear type power steering through 02?? GM is definitely superior to Ford because my 88 Cutlass Supreme Classic (underpowered 3.8) had rack and pinion steering as an option while my 83 Rocket Car (Cutlass w/ 455) had worm gear steering box.

My '97 Crown Vic has a 4.6L OHC V8. How many GM cars have OHC V8s available, and for how long? GM's been using that pushrod 3.8 V6 since when, 1962? ;O)

BTW, are your Vics P71s? If so are you wanting to sell your 97?

My '97 is a P74 (LX) with the "performance and handling package": dual exhaust, sway bars, 16" alloys, shorter rear-end, etc.


269 posted on 06/29/2005 9:13:05 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

The only OHC V8 commercially marketed was the Lotus built LT5 5.7 (349 ci not 350) V8, built exclusively for the Corvette ZR-1. I was referring to superiority in handling department. Not meaning to paint with such a wide brush. The basic design of the 3.8 (based on the 215 ci Buick V8) yes has been in use since 62, but they haven't let grass grow up around it. Each redesign or revision has shown substantial improvement, and the current series II 3800 V6 is almost an entirely different engine from the original 231 ci V6 odd-fire motor that Buick initially sold to Rover. About the only directly interchangable thing is the cylinder heads, and even they have improved greatly. However as for improvements to the pushrod V8, remember GM has done a lot of radical changes to it too. Coil on plug ignition, sequential electronic fuel injection. If I'm not mistaken as recently as 01 FoMoCo still was using two coil packs, one for each bank of cylinders. Not a bad type of ignition system, just not as advanced as one coil per plug.

As for superiority in suspension systems, remember even the current generation Crown Victoria still uses the watts link rear suspension that they used on the late 60s LTDs...


270 posted on 06/30/2005 6:48:40 AM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by Majority vote"-- Pope Benedict XVI)
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