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Kennedy's imaginery quagmire
Liberty Call US ^ | June 27, 2005 | Liberty

Posted on 06/27/2005 11:48:14 AM PDT by Gunner9mm

Kennedy's imaginery quagmire

June 27, 2005

On a scale of 1 to 10, my respect for Senator Ted Kennedy is about a minus 25. That was before I saw his vicious attack on Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld that was filled with lies and distortions that only a moveon.org radical left-wing idiot could appreciate.

Kennedy's tirade made me wonder where he gets his information. His characterization of the war in Iraq, especially his term "intractable quagmire" bears no resemblance to reality. I think all Kennedy did was dust off an old Viet Nam era anti-war diatribe, change Viet Nam to Iraq, and modify it a little to make it a hit piece against Rumsfeld specifically, and the military in general.

Here's a bit of what Kennedy said, "Secretary Rumsfeld, you know we are in serious trouble in Iraq. This war has been consistently and grossly mismanaged. And we are now in a seemingly intractable quagmire. Our troops are dying, and there really is no end in sight."

Compare that to what Karl Zinmeister, editor of The American Enterprise said, after he returned from his third trip to Iraq:

"I spent lots of time walking both neighborhoods this spring—something that would not have been possible a year earlier, when both were active war zones, where tanks poured shells into buildings on a regular basis. Today, the primary work of our soldiers in each area is rebuilding sewers, paving roads, getting buildings repaired and secured, supplying schools and hospitals, getting trash picked up, managing traffic, and encouraging honest local governance.

What the establishment media covering Iraq have utterly failed to make clear today is this central reality: With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over. Egregious acts of terror will continue—in Iraq as in many other parts of the world. But there is now no chance whatever of the U.S. losing this critical guerilla war.

Contrary to the impression given by most newspaper headlines, the United States has won the day in Iraq. In 2004, our military fought fierce battles in Najaf, Fallujah, and Sadr City. Many thousands of terrorists were killed, with comparatively little collateral damage. As examples of the very hardest sorts of urban combat, these will go down in history as smashing U.S. victories.

And our successes at urban combat (which, scandalously, are mostly untold stories in the U.S.) made it crystal clear to both the terrorists and the millions of moderate Iraqis that the insurgents simply cannot win against today’s U.S. Army and Marines. That’s why everyday citizens have surged into politics instead.

The terrorist struggle has hardly ended. Even a very small number of vicious men operating in secret will find opportunities to blow up outdoor markets and public buildings, assassinate prominent political figures, and knock down office towers. But public opinion is not on the insurgents’ side, and the battle of Iraq is no longer one of war fighting—but of policing and politics."

So who are we to believe? Zinmeister, an editor and reporter who has been embedded with the troops in Iraq three times? Zinmeister, who has written two books on his earlier experiences with coalition troops, who has seen the invasion and the war close up and personal?

Or Kennedy, who limits himself to reports in the Boston Globe and New York Times? Kennedy, who, through his lies and insults, denigrates the efforts of the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs when they tell him the truth? Kennedy, who cares more about pandering to the most radical of left-wing nutcases than he does for the fate of American warfighters or the war on terror?

The only intractable quagmire I see here is the mudhole that Kennedy and the vast majority of the Democrats insist on operating from.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: iraq; kennedy; quagmire; rumsfeld; tedkennedy; waronterror
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To: Gunner9mm

One of The Democratic Crime Syndicate's finest spokesmen.


41 posted on 06/29/2005 5:30:04 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: FormerACLUmember

I think I'm going to lose my breakfast with this photo of the blob.


42 posted on 06/29/2005 5:58:02 AM PDT by pieces of time
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To: Seadog Bytes

On one of the Sunday shows, Rumsfeld was asked about the Teddy rant. His response was cool, almost brushing it off, saying that he "knows" Kennedy. Sounded like "what do you expect from a sotted, pathetic, has-been, who's out of touch with reality".


43 posted on 06/29/2005 6:03:29 AM PDT by pieces of time
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To: Big Digger

The piles of dog shit in my yard are worth more than anything this fat loser has to offer.Teddy and his fellow scumbags on the left can only see the quagmire that they wish would happen.Forty years of being a drunken fat slob makes his life one big quagmire.


44 posted on 06/29/2005 6:13:09 AM PDT by rdcorso (To Fight And Win The War On Terror We Must Secure Our Borders Now.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

thanks - 'saving it' for you ...lol


45 posted on 06/29/2005 7:42:35 AM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 06/29/2005 7:47:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Seadog Bytes


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TED KENNEDY just knows better:

TED KENNEDY in Vietnam-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(See 5th Photo)

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(More Photos)

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47 posted on 06/29/2005 7:48:30 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Red Badger

Kennedy's quagmire is owned alcohol destroyed brain which is mush.


48 posted on 06/29/2005 7:49:50 AM PDT by DarthVader (Always ready to educate liberals by beating them profusely about the head with a Louisville Slugger.)
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To: Gunner9mm


If Kennedy was dying from thirst - I wouldn't give him the sweat off my scrotum. He is worthless like the liar Bill Clintoon and the plagiarist Joe Biden.


49 posted on 06/29/2005 7:53:08 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Gunner9mm
Kennedy said... This war has been consistently and grossly mismanaged.

This, from Teddy Kennedy, the hero of Chappaquiddick who couldn't "manage" to call the police as his companion of the evening was drowning in his car.

50 posted on 06/29/2005 7:55:54 AM PDT by RJL
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To: JLS

This guy just doesn't quit. shit shit shit.


51 posted on 06/29/2005 7:57:29 AM PDT by bentover
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To: jackv

Teddy "is" the image of the Kennedy Klan, that most people are familiar with.

Better watch your big fat back side around your clansmen, Teddy boy.


52 posted on 06/29/2005 8:13:01 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Save the babies, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-save America!!!-ABORT THE COURT!)
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To: Gunner9mm

The only thing dumber than Dumbo Teddy, is the jackasses who keep electing him.


53 posted on 06/29/2005 8:16:07 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Save the babies, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-save America!!!-ABORT THE COURT!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

"Boob with boobs."


54 posted on 06/29/2005 8:17:28 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Save the babies, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-save America!!!-ABORT THE COURT!)
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To: rdcorso

It may just be me, but reading "anything this fat loser has to offer" , tells me that the slob is on a successful diet. Is there a comma missing somewhere?

I'm not trying to be a smart @$$, rdcorso. I ask myself similar questions, every time I post-too often, as everyone is fully aware, I give myself the wrong answer.


55 posted on 06/29/2005 8:31:42 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Save the babies, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-save America!!!-ABORT THE COURT!)
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To: RJL

EXACTLY!!!
Please see also...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431733/posts?page=40#40


56 posted on 06/29/2005 3:21:09 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: pieces of time
Yes, thanks, and I really liked 'Scrappleface's ('Things we wished we'd thought of at the time...' line for Donald...) "...With all due respect Senator, you're all wet."
...Too bad Rumsfeld didn't actually utter it (...at least aloud within OUR earshot, anyway.)

57 posted on 06/29/2005 4:09:32 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: bitt

58 posted on 06/29/2005 4:11:25 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Yes Ma'am.


59 posted on 06/29/2005 4:14:20 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
So. He 'seemed' and acted like a 'friendly' back then, did he???

Too bad. That was a terrible war. Always was hard to tell the 'good guys' from the 'bad guys'. Guess we don't have that problem with Kennedy any more though. (Nor with Kerry either, for THAT matter.) Most days, it seems pretty *obvious* that Teddy-boy is not, and never has been, 'one of us'. (...in SPITE of what people like John Kerry might try to get us to believe.)


Source: http://www.jonchristianryter.com/IMAGE/Kennedy-Kerry.1971.jpg

60 posted on 06/29/2005 4:34:24 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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