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The Supreme Court and the Ten Commandments
National Morality. Com ^ | 02-27-05 | Wayne D. Leeper

Posted on 06/27/2005 5:52:18 AM PDT by tenn2005

In a AP-Ipsos poll completed in late February it was determined that 76% of the people want the right to display religious symbols and acknowledge God on our public property. If this were the result of an election it would be proclaimed as an undeniable mandate. Is the Supreme Court of the United States of America less subject to the will of the people than the other branches of government?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: supremecourt; tencommandment
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1 posted on 06/27/2005 5:52:19 AM PDT by tenn2005
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To: tenn2005
Is the Supreme Court of the United States of America less subject to the will of the people than the other branches of government?

After last week's ruling - yes. Certainly Stevens, Ginsburg, Souter, Kennedy, and that other one I can't remember right now ...

2 posted on 06/27/2005 5:57:02 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: tenn2005

Technically speaking the SCOTUS should not be "beholding" to anyone. It should be strictly guided by the Constitution of these United States.

However it has turned into a little dictatorial regime which is beholding to no one. Sooooooo

Maybe it's time to make the Supremes an Elective office as well.

ALL Judgeships should be elected offices, none should ever be "for life"


3 posted on 06/27/2005 5:57:52 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: tenn2005
Hologram Of Liberty
4 posted on 06/27/2005 6:00:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"ALL Judgeships should be elected offices, none should ever be "for life""

Nope. Won't work because then the judges will be beholden to their financiers.

Jusges get appointed to one 10 year term by the President in office.


5 posted on 06/27/2005 6:03:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: tenn2005

The 10 Commandments are displayed on the Court building. Ergo any other public bldg. wishing to emulate/respect/honor the court is NOT committing a crime!!


6 posted on 06/27/2005 6:13:47 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Ken522
Our government system was designed in the Constitution so that the Supreme Court was less subject to the will of the people than the other branches.

Duh.

The other two branches are elected and hold power until they are up for re-election. The Supreme Court justices are appointed to lifetime terms.

I know some people don't like the Constitution, especially the 1st Amendment. But luckily it was crafted by wiser men with an eye to the future, and not an eye towards acknowledging what Thomas Jefferson would call your "particular superstition".
7 posted on 06/27/2005 6:22:42 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Waco
So is Mohammed.

And Solon.

And Hammurabi.

8 posted on 06/27/2005 6:28:53 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Mylo

Bingo. Mr. Boortz made an interesting observation this morning. He said that he knows the 10C, and keeps a Bible at his desk and can look at them whenever he wants - as can anyone else. Therefore, those who are insistent upon the display of the 10C in government buildings want them there for the 'benefit' of others, rather than for themselves.


9 posted on 06/27/2005 6:31:00 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Mylo
I know some people don't like the Constitution, especially the 1st Amendment.

Right, like you and your fellow travelers who somehow think that the 1A offers you a right of freedom from religion or that secularism somehow is more equal thatn religion in the public square.

But luckily it was crafted by wiser men with an eye to the future, and not an eye towards acknowledging what Thomas Jefferson would call your "particular superstition".

And unluckily for you TJ didn't write the 1A, Fisher Ames did. And Mr Ames would look askance ata ny suggestion that religion be banned from the public square in favor of radical secularism.

10 posted on 06/27/2005 6:35:15 AM PDT by jwalsh07 ("Su casa es mi casa!" SCOTUS 6/23/05)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

The job of judges is to determine what the law says and means; NOT to decide what the people think it should say and mean. That is why the Constitution provides that they be appointed, and to lifetime terms; rather than standing for election.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 7:38:28 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: jwalsh07

So anything without graven images upon it for you to worship is "radical secularism"?


12 posted on 06/27/2005 7:39:45 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo

LOL, try again, that was from the small mind of 6 year old liberal. My word.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 7:40:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Stand up or bend over, your choice.)
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To: jwalsh07
I am not a liberal, nor a "fellow traveler". And according to your formulation, any public square without graven images of religious iconography is "radical secularism".

The roots of the First Amendment can be traced to a bill written by Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) in 1777 and proposed to the Virginia Legislature in 1779. 1 It guaranteed freedom of religion. After an impassioned speech by James Madison, and after some amendments, it became law on 1786-JAN-16.

I guess success has a thousand fathers while defeat is an orphan. So now the 1st Amendment has THREE fathers?
14 posted on 06/27/2005 7:57:03 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo

Radical secularism by definition excludes religion. And if you want to go through life thinking that Thomas Jefferson authored the 1A be my guest, ignorance is indeed bliss. If not, google George Mason, Fisher Ames, James Madison and First Amendment.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 7:59:52 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Stand up or bend over, your choice.)
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To: jwalsh07
Yeah, I know George Mason. I went to George Mason University. I read his letters to George Washington. Madison is usually credited as the author of the first amendment (although Ames is given credit for the suggested wording) and he relied extensively on Thomas Jefferson's bill to the Virginia Legislature written in 1777.

"WE, the General Assembly of Virginia, do enact that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities."
16 posted on 06/27/2005 8:23:49 AM PDT by Mylo
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To: EQAndyBuzz

hmm 10 years is too long.. I'd prefer 2. Quicker we get them out, the less damage they can do.


17 posted on 06/27/2005 12:17:02 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Mylo

"The job of judges is to determine what the law says and means; NOT to decide what the people think it should say and mean. That is why the Constitution provides that they be appointed, and to lifetime terms; rather than standing for election."

Yes, you are correct

However, that is NOT the reality of the situation.

We have little tin horn dictators across this country (that in my opinion should be jailed at the very least), who are WRITING LAW from the bench.

The SCOTUS has now given powers to state and local governments that they have NEVER had, and never SHOULD have.

The Constitution is written in plain english. You don't have to be a spoofed liberal elite to interpret the Constitution.

When it says

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

I don't need some pampered jackass from an Ivy League school to tell me what it means. It means what it says. The RIGHT of the peope to keep AND BEAR arms, shall not be infringed. PERIOD.

Likewise when it says

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; NOR SHALL PRIVATE PROPERTY BE TAKEN FOR PUBLIC USE, WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION."

I can read english and understand THAT as well.

The SCOTUS needs to be done away with in its current form, and those "People" that just destroyed the concept of Private Property in this country, need to be Jailed for Life for violating the very constitution they swore to uphold and defend.

PERIOD


18 posted on 06/27/2005 12:24:33 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Leatherneck_MT
What you and I can agree on is that the SCOTUS needs to interpret the common sense meaning of the Constitution. In no sense does the phrase "public use" mean "any conceivable public benefit".
19 posted on 06/27/2005 12:30:07 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo

"What you and I can agree on is that the SCOTUS needs to interpret the common sense meaning of the Constitution. In no sense does the phrase "public use" mean "any conceivable public benefit"."

That we can agree on.

But with the current makeup of the brain dead majority, they won't


20 posted on 06/27/2005 12:33:18 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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