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Russia probing whether Jewish law constitutes incitement ["first time since Stalin's regime"]
Haaretz ^ | 27JUN05 | Amiram Barkat

Posted on 06/27/2005 12:22:33 AM PDT by familyop

Russia's state prosecutor has ordered an examination of Shulhan Arukh - a code of Jewish halakhic law compiled in the 16th century - to ascertain whether it constitutes racist incitement and anti-Russian material. . . . Last Thursday, attorneys from the Russian State Prosecutor's Office questioned Rabbi Zinovy Kogan, chairman of the Congress of Jewish Organizations - one of the two large Jewish umbrella organizations in Russia. Kogan was asked to explain the contents of Shulhan Arukh, especially regarding its treatment of non-Jews. Jerusalem sources following the affair said this is the first time since Stalin's regime that Russian officials have described holy Jewish scriptures as prohibited incitement. . . . The state prosecutor's last move has increased Israel's concern for the Jews in Russia, following the recent increase in anti-Semitic incidents there. These incidents include attacks on Jews and damage to Jewish property. The inquiry was launched following a letter signed by 500 public figures, including some 20 members of the nationalist Rodina party, urging the state prosecutor to outlaw the Jewish religion and all the Jewish organizations operating in Russia. The prosecutor rejected requests of Jewish organizations to open an investigation into those who had initiated the letter. Rodina's leader, Dimitri Rogozin, sent a letter to Moscow Chief Rabbi Pinhas Goldschmidt over the weekend, criticizing the anti-Semitic displays in his party. "Theological sources cannot be subjected to judiciary procedures," he wrote. . . . Alexander Boroda, the president of the Federation of Jewish Communities told a Russian news agency: "We are shocked by the very examination. The fact that books from the 16th century, which have become part of Jewish heritage, are subject to investigation shows the short-sightedness of the state prosecutor's people."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: censorship; dictatorship; freedom; jewish; rasputin2; religion; religious; retread; russia; russianjews; speech; tapthesource
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
The Russian Federal Government no longer plays a role in sponsoring or promoting anti-Semitic activities. Federal officials are not involved in encouraging ethnic violence and are taking certain steps to stop and prevent it. Anti-Semitic statements are not encouraged and are sometimes even legally prosecuted.

"In the past 12 months the president of the Russian Federation has continued to build friendly relationships with the Jewish community. During the traditional meeting with the Chief Rabbi of the Russian Federation (Chabad), Berel Lazar, President Putin stated that "the Russian society has many times demonstrated the rejection of any forms of xenophobia that prevent the country's normal development". Concerning the victory of nationalistic parties in the Duma, Vladimir Putin made a statement during his annual live question and answer broadcast, saying that people who use nationalist slogans for political campaigning are provocateurs who try to agitate public opinion. These words were interpreted as a public denouncement of nationalistic platform."

21 posted on 06/27/2005 1:26:56 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
I just want to expose the fact that Putin et al are neither in the interests of the US

Your president doesn't seem to agree with your opinion on this, and neither does Condi Rice.

That makes it a pretty worthless "fact", imo.

22 posted on 06/27/2005 1:31:47 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Hey Mar Mena, would you call Mar Samuel a rabid Nationalist ?

The Jewish orthodox rationalist, Mar Samuel, of the Academy of Sara, Babylon, from about the year 220 ace, was a truly great figure from the past. Very few people recognize or remember what true greatness is these days, with an ocean of mediocrity obscuring the beautiful island sanctuaries of true brilliance. Fortunately, some of us are still able to discern where true wisdom dwells.

Anyway he made a famous decision, which by the way most affected the Jews, and was expressed in the phrase, Dina d'malchuthah dina—"The law of the land is the law for us." This means that it was the duty of all people including the Jews to obey the laws of the countries in which we live. Jeremiah's famous quote, which should be etched into every adult's consciousness, was "Seek the peace of the country whither ye are exiled and pray to the Lord-for its welfare." The ultimate result of Samuel's dictum was that the better the Jew, the better the patriot. Jeremiah out trumps Jabotinsky in the Wisdom Card Game by a mile.

There are many different forms of Nationalism.

23 posted on 06/27/2005 1:32:33 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: MarMema; familyop; GSlob; struwwelpeter

Do you know the answer to my question??? Who has the authority to hire and fire the state prosecutor in Russia??? In other words, where do Jews and concerned Christians go to demand that the state prosecutor be fired???

Gslob, Struwwelpeter, do you know?


24 posted on 06/27/2005 1:35:14 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

But only one author of the kind that includes hate.


25 posted on 06/27/2005 1:36:09 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

==Jeremiah out trumps Jabotinsky in the Wisdom Card Game by a mile.

I'll take Jabotinsky and M. Begin anyday. Your Jewish rationalist never managed to create a Jewish state (where Jews could go when their ethnicity, religion, and books are outlawed by Communist/Fascist/Muslim states).


26 posted on 06/27/2005 1:44:15 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: MarMema; BringBackMyHUAC
"To BringBackMyHUAC:
Again you are way out in left field. A newbie here. Putin just apologized in public for anti-semitism in Russia in the past, and Sharon appears to like him very much. Your agenda is one of nothing but hate and troublemaking. I hope you can face God with some pitiful attempts at explanations for your postings here and your motives behind them."

Amen to that.

Here and in Canada, government courts are citing the Bible as incitement and hateful. This will only culminate in the imprisonment, torture, and murder of true Christians, with China as a model.

Atheists throughout the world, no matter the disguise, are warring with the presence of God in our national cultures. They must eliminate any loyalty and reverence to Him be you Jew or Christian.

Government has, through tax law, already sealed the lips of every church hierarchy - the very same leadership who are now questioning the legitimacy of the Bible, and march in legion with government against the Laws of God and the Ten Commandments.

We are not yet in the end times, but it will come to pass, I believe, by mid-century. Corruption, like cancer, has engulfed the world's religions, leaving the door open to those who have forgotten this life is temporal - that there will be an answering for every harmful act each of us commits, and failed to seek true forgiveness.

There is no 'King's-X' last breath prayer.

27 posted on 06/27/2005 1:45:10 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
Good luck to you and your choice of role models.

Things are really heating up now over the coming days and weeks. You may need to reconsider who you take advice from very soon, to readjust your mindset to an ongoing survival pattern.
28 posted on 06/27/2005 1:48:35 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

I am not Jewish. I am a Christian. But if someone tries to lay a finger on a Jew, I will break that finger. If someone tries to take a Jewish life...


29 posted on 06/27/2005 1:53:40 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Good for you. Defending life is a noble thing to do.


30 posted on 06/27/2005 1:57:11 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

==Good luck to you and your choice of role models.

BTW, I stongly recommend you read "The Revolt" by M. Begin, "PERFIDY" by Ben Hecht, and "Self Portrait of a Hero" the collected letters of Yoni Netanyahu. The last thing the Jews need right now is to take the advice of Jewish rationalizers.


31 posted on 06/27/2005 1:58:12 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: MarMema

So, Neo-Nazis are leading Our United States? You need to qualify/quantify your statement.


32 posted on 06/27/2005 2:10:43 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: MarMema

You and Putin can take the free ride...


33 posted on 06/27/2005 2:14:22 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: Treader
==So, Neo-Nazis are leading Our United States? You need to qualify/quantify your statement.

I can't believe I didn't think of that myself. Can you imagine if the US Attorney General began investigating a 16th Century Jewish code to assess whether it reflected anti-American material!!!
34 posted on 06/27/2005 2:21:58 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: familyop
Jews have always been accused by their enemies of being atheists, anti-nationalist, harboring racist feelings towards Gentiles, being too rich, being too poor, and what have you. In this day and age it follows there is no charge you can't pin on a Jew. Even though the Holocaust ended only 60 years ago.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
35 posted on 06/27/2005 2:27:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Just curious...have you read any of the books listed in post #31?


36 posted on 06/27/2005 2:30:03 AM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: Treader

WTHecky durned, little bunny. Ever been wolf-ed? Come back little bunny- your palatined palaver is prescient to pancakies with maple syrup & loud barking flies.


37 posted on 06/27/2005 2:31:07 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: MarMema

Please read #37- it was intended for you, MarMema.


38 posted on 06/27/2005 2:40:09 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Could happen in Canada...


39 posted on 06/27/2005 3:10:49 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Yes, sadly, I can imagine that. Nothing has yet changed, since Adam made his mark. All of history is given in the simple story of Genesis- yet, the children of Cain/Baal scream foul, foul, foul... by deeded trust, no doubt.


40 posted on 06/27/2005 3:13:37 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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