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U.S. Lawmakers Tour Guantanamo Bay Prison -Fact Finding
AP ^ | 6/25/05 | Liz Sidoti

Posted on 06/25/2005 9:35:57 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Guantanamo has become a lightening rod," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif.

My congressperson....What an embarrassment.

61 posted on 06/25/2005 1:18:09 PM PDT by My2Cents (In the golf game of life, I want a mulligan.)
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To: pbrown

The fact that Al Jazeera picks up THOSE news stories and uses them to inflame the Muslims, is more than enough proof.


62 posted on 06/25/2005 1:37:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: pbrown

Also -- all those riots, where people got killed, which where the radical Mulsims used the Nesweek phony charges that the US at Gitmo mishandled the Koran.

The Dems keep giving ammunition and legitimizing the terrorist, making it sound, as if they were justified to attack us.

Your liberal "discussion partners" don't want to accept the obvious truth, because it shows them for what they are, what Rove showed them to be, a bunch of terrorist loving, blame America first, America haters.


63 posted on 06/25/2005 1:41:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Imagine that!!!! I looked high; and I looked low; I looked in between everyone; I looked in suitcases; I looked under seats on the plane; I looked in the cock-pit; I looked in the bathrooms; I looked in the galley and I never seen DURBIN!!! Now just where do you suppost the idiot is????

Let me see, wasn't he the one that called Camp GITMO as the German Gulag????

And wasn't he the one that said our Military are Natiz????

Just goes to show you folks, if it smells like an idiot; and it talks like and idiot; and it looks like an idiot then by gosh it must be an IDIOT!!!


64 posted on 06/25/2005 1:48:43 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: FairOpinion
The fact that Al Jazeera picks up THOSE news stories and uses them to inflame the Muslims, is more than enough proof.

Thanks, that's what I kept telling them, but you know how liberals are. Nothing I rebutted them with was good enough.

65 posted on 06/25/2005 1:59:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Guantanamo has become a lightening rod," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif."

And how was your orange-glazed chicken, fresh fruit crepe, steamed peas and mushrooms, and rice pilaf, Ms. Tauscher????? Was it torture?
66 posted on 06/25/2005 2:00:32 PM PDT by jdm (The answer to the extra credit question on a Columbia U exam is always choice C: "Bush's Fault.")
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To: FairOpinion
Your liberal "discussion partners" don't want to accept the obvious truth, because it shows them for what they are, what Rove showed them to be, a bunch of terrorist loving, blame America first, America haters.

There comes a point where I run out of information to show them. And still, they deny it.

67 posted on 06/25/2005 2:01:38 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: OldFriend
"The congress-critters are hoping to confirm all the worst lying propaganda regarding Gitmo."

And if ,in fact, they don't find abuse they will make something up anyway.

68 posted on 06/25/2005 2:05:20 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: pbrown

No matter what iron clad evidence you would show them, they would still deny it.

But their own actions and words speak for themselves for all, but the most deluded to see whose side they are on: on the side of the terrorists, against the US.


69 posted on 06/25/2005 2:09:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Mo1
Under increasing attacks over conditions at the prison, the White House and Pentagon have defended almost daily the conditions and treatment of detainees at Guantanamo.

Only because the press has kept it front and center Liz, you media puke.

70 posted on 06/25/2005 2:10:44 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Does my American flag offend you? Dial 1-800-LEAVE THE USA!)
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To: GOPologist
"Maybe the detainees should have been held by the likes of Viet Congs, Nazis, Stalinists, or Tojos."

Even that would have been too good for them.

71 posted on 06/25/2005 2:11:07 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Peach

Big whoop indeed. I say if things get bad, inflict pain. Massive amounts of it.


72 posted on 06/25/2005 2:12:54 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Does my American flag offend you? Dial 1-800-LEAVE THE USA!)
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To: FairOpinion
But their own actions and words speak for themselves for all, but the most deluded to see whose side they are on: on the side of the terrorists, against the US.

Debating with them is like talking to a brick wall.They are really hung up about why the WH won't release the information on Bolton.

I had to take a break from their insanity.

73 posted on 06/25/2005 2:18:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Going to Gitmo does no good unless they have something to compare the experience with. So we should fly them directly to Iraq and drop them off in Fallujah (sp) or Baquba and let the terrorists show them the difference.
74 posted on 06/25/2005 2:23:51 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: pbrown

"They are really hung up about why the WH won't release the information on Bolton."

That is a big red herring. If the WH would release that, then they would ask for MORE and MORE.

They are obstructing, but don't want to be called obstructionists.


75 posted on 06/25/2005 2:28:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Good comment. I suggest that the Congressional Jackasses visit some mass graves in Iraq, to see the bones of hundreds of thousands of Saddam Hussein's victims. Perhaps they can determine if their rights were violated.


76 posted on 06/25/2005 2:36:10 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: pbrown

Hi---betcha the dems come back spinning tales just the opposite of what the REPS say about Gitmo!!!

Just heard on Fox that Reid, Hillary, Lautenberg, Schumer, OBAMA, Kennedy have sent a letter to President Bush today, demanding Rove's resignation!!!!! LOL, ROFLMAO---

I think my reaction is the same as the White House's actually!!!! LOL


77 posted on 06/25/2005 2:48:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Mo1
"What ??? ... Durbin didn't go?"
Well... with Durbin's love and support for these service men and women, he is smart NOT to go :)
78 posted on 06/25/2005 2:52:14 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: alloysteel
One wonders, what is the scale by which these critics of the treatment of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay measure the degree of "mistreatment"?

The following is actually a post I made on another thread, but I think it works well here too:

Feminists because men 'dominate' and women 'relate' or 'link', they decided that hierarchy is a bad thing, so they scraped hierarchy in favor of equality- in other words, everything is equal, there is no such thing as better or worse, good or bad, right or wrong, because they're all equal.

So what does this give us? A hierarchy that says equality is better than hierarchy- basically a hierarchy that denies the existence of hierarchies. This is an operational fallacy. To deny the existence of hierarchies is also to deny the existence of values, since a thing has value in relation to another thing- more valuable or less valuable, which is why self-destructive behaviors such as homo-sexuality, and a lack of education, etc. are seen as equal to hetro-sexuality, a quality education and so on- there's no value distinction.

Hierarchies exist, no amount of denial will change that, but in order to balance the scales, feminists and liberals emphasize the traditionally negative and minimize the traditionally positive.

That, in my opinion, is what it is about socialism that seems to appeal to that "vast swath of women". Now, I believe there is such a thing as 'equal but different', but have you noticed how many publicly prominent women have hair styles that make them appear disturbingly like men? The more we minimize the differences between men and women, the less attractive the one will be to the other.

79 posted on 06/25/2005 3:05:22 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Crap impersonating intellectual discourse is the final fruit of decadence (It's time the Left left!))
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To: leprechaun9

Before painting everyone with a broad brush, you should have checked to see who was part of this group.

Duncan Hunter (R-CA) led this group and he is totally pro-military. My Congressman Tom Cole (R-OK) is among the group as well. He is honest and supports our military 100%. He has been in and out of Iraq numerous times and came back with glowing reports of how well our military was doing.


80 posted on 06/25/2005 3:21:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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