[iconoclast]

I boxed too, is that "Western" enough for you?

I never boxed beyond Boys Club, but enjoyed it as a spectator most of my life (till it got corrupted beyond belief).

Still enjoy amateur boxing, sorry you got some other impression.

[Melas]

My apologies. I can be a grouchy dog myself. I'm going to start taking a vow to not reply to anything online until after lunch when I'm usually a much better person to be around.

I quit watching boxing when it became corrupt as well. I have seen a fight in years now. The sport is just a shadow of what it used to be.