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Too Good to Play
fox news ^ | June 23, 2005

Posted on 06/25/2005 6:51:06 AM PDT by kiki04

Too Good to Play Thursday, June 23, 2005 A team of 11- and 12-year-old baseball players has been kicked out of its league — for being too good. Earlier this month, the Stars of Columbus, Ohio, were taken off the Canal Winchester Joint Recreation District's (search) schedule, and their $150 entry fee was refunded, reports The Columbus Dispatch. The 14 boys only joined the suburban league in early May, but since then had creamed every other team that faced them — 18-0, 13-0, 24-0, 10-2 and 17-6. "I called up the league office and said, 'No way are we going to play them,'" Terry Morris, who coaches another team in the division, told The Dispatch. "I wasn't going to subject my players to that." Pretty soon, all scheduled games were canceled, and the Stars found themselves orphaned. "I don't think it's fair," said Stars catcher and pitcher Michael Allston, who at 12 stands 5-foot-8. "We always played our best, and we were just winning games." "

[Another] team told us they didn't want their boys' self-esteem battered," said Trina Cochran, mother of 11-year-old Stars player Mario Cochran. "Our boys went into this with a good attitude," said Darla Perry, whose son R.J., 11, weighs 155 pounds. "It's turned into a disaster." Opponents' parents charged that the Stars' players were older than they claimed to be and that they were actually an "all-star" team culled from across Columbus. In return, the Stars' parents began bringing birth certificates to games, as well as documents showing that all but one of the boys lived in the same ZIP code. League officials and other teams' coaches are unrepentant. "They were just beating the rec kids up," said Michael Mirones, the league's board chairman. "It's no fun for the kids that are losing."

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To: Night Hides Not

Hell man, I was an amatuer figher. No one understand the chasm between a talented amatuer and mediocre professional as well we do.


61 posted on 06/25/2005 2:26:49 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: Melas

I'll bet!!! LOL!


62 posted on 06/25/2005 3:04:19 PM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Night Hides Not
It's an experience when you go up against an amatuer that has what it takes to be a pro. I did it once against a guy named Clarke Sowle in Dever, CO. I still remember it to this day. I'd lost fights before, but they were always fights. This was a beating, with no response. My instructor eventually had me bow out, and at that particular tournament everyone who faced him after me bowed out without fighting. Lucky me was just first.

He was just at a completely different level than I was, or anyone I'd ever even seen. He eventually went to Thailand to fight for money, and last I heard was money-making shootfighter in Japan.

63 posted on 06/25/2005 3:24:37 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: Night Hides Not
"... you disrespect the game of baseball .."

Baseball is only my game one night a year, from the nosebleed section behind home plate and perhaps largely for the hot dogs.

But the only reason I see for letting off of the gas when you are ahead is to save the car, tires, or gas.

The only reason I see for letting off the gas when you are behind is none of the above 'cause at that point it only matters if you can convince the other guy that you were conserving the car. And that's barely acceptable.

64 posted on 06/25/2005 5:49:41 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: kiki04
Terry Morris, who coaches another team in the division, told The Dispatch. "I wasn't going to subject my players to that."

What an incredible pussy metrosexual democrat.

65 posted on 06/25/2005 5:54:37 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MikeinIraq
... so they practice their asses off in the interim, pick the little bastards off next time, then steal their girlfriends after the game !


66 posted on 06/25/2005 5:58:02 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MikeinIraq
I'll accept your sources on the genesis of this particular team, 155 lb 11 year olds are not real common and any infraction of league rules should be addressed. But the only infraction cited in the article is by innuendo.
But

.."If you are smacking a team 20-0, even the players in the Major Leagues back off, and THAT is a business."

Refers better to a business than to kids or countries, victory today is total.
Compromise is a really good thing - in business.
Otherwise, if you can add a couple of points - go for it.

PS: I've been on both sides of that closing.

67 posted on 06/25/2005 5:59:46 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: Publius6961
Raise the basket 2 feet and then, for me, it might restore some element of skill to the "sport".

A-friggin-men !

68 posted on 06/25/2005 6:00:49 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MikeinIraq

69 posted on 06/25/2005 6:06:08 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MikeinIraq
(i actually agree w/ya about stealin' bases after the trounce is firmly in place ;-)
70 posted on 06/25/2005 6:09:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MikeinIraq
I'd love to know more about this team ... especially the coaches.
71 posted on 06/25/2005 6:46:11 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: Melas
I always knew I didn't like baseball, and now I know why.

I always knew I preferred America and Western Civilization to Japan and I always knew why.

72 posted on 06/25/2005 6:51:21 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: SamAdams76
Get off the thread.

You "don't get it".

73 posted on 06/25/2005 6:55:11 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: HIDEK6
No kids.

Who'd have guessed it?

Would I be way off base in guessing not a whole lot of athletic prowess either?

74 posted on 06/25/2005 6:59:54 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: Melas
Hell man, I was an amatuer figher.

Too many blows to the head?

75 posted on 06/25/2005 7:03:10 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: tomkat
How many teams have you coached, tomkat?
76 posted on 06/25/2005 7:05:45 PM PDT by iconoclast (.. the president should "stop talking down" to Congress and the American people. - Anthony Cordesman)
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To: iconoclast
Well, I never did get asked to try out for the Cincinnati Reds, but I do recall having my ass kicked mercilessly on many occasions.

The lesson I learned was I had better improve.

It never occured to me that I should whine about the unfairness of the competition.

I believe the latter was the point of this discussion.

77 posted on 06/25/2005 7:27:50 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: iconoclast
And another thing, I don't get the "running up the score" part. How many runs should a team be allowed to get ahead by before they must then sit on their hands and stop trying to score?

Just a few nights ago, the Devil Rays built up a huge lead against the New York Yankees, only to lose the game because New York scored 13 runs in the top of the ninth!

I suppose the Devil Rays should have scored more runs but if they had, they might have been accused of "running up the score."

78 posted on 06/25/2005 7:54:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Old enough to know better, still too young to care)
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To: tomkat

that is what may happen down the road.

The funny part is, sure the kids that are winning are good players, but if they are destroyed EVERYONE in their paths in this rec league, they have no incentive to improve their respective games.

they will remain good players, but when compared to towns like Pataskala, Pickerington, Groveport and all the other towns in the area, they will be behind the power curve.


79 posted on 06/26/2005 5:16:52 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (If the GOP can't come up with someone better than Tancredo, THEY ARE in a world of hurt.)
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To: norton

yeah but you don't need to steal bases and take the extra base or get into rundowns when you are up like that. Believe me, if you are up 15-20 runs, the kids on your team will find a way to score either way be it through walks or hits.

Backing off doesn't mean quitting. It means not trying to rub the other kids faces in it.


80 posted on 06/26/2005 5:19:09 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (If the GOP can't come up with someone better than Tancredo, THEY ARE in a world of hurt.)
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