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'I'm passionate about life -'CRUISE 'WAR OF WORLDS'
MSNBC ^ | 6/24/05 | Today show

Posted on 06/24/2005 7:49:38 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

...Lauer: Katie has mentioned that she is embracing, or at least exposing herself and opening herself up to, Scientology. At this stage in your life, could you be with someone who doesn't have an interest?

Cruise: You know, Scientology is something that you don't understand. It's like, you could be a Christian and be a Scientologist, okay. Scientology is something—

Lauer: So, it doesn't replace religion.

Cruise: It is a religion. Because it's dealing with the spirit. You as a spiritual being. It gives you tools you can use to apply to your life.

We asked Cruise to explain his recent comments regarding Brooke Shields. Cruise created a firestorm when he criticized Shields for revealing that she went into therapy and took antidepressants to deal with her postpartum depression. Cruise has said that, as a Scientologist, he doesn't believe in psychiatric medicine.

Cruise: I've never agreed with psychiatry, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with psychiatry. And when I started studying the history of psychiatry, I understood more and more why I didn't believe in psychology.

And as far as the Brooke Shields thing, look, you got to understand, I really care about Brooke Shields. I think, here's a wonderful and talented woman. And I want to see her do well. And I know that psychiatry is a pseudo science.

Lauer: But Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressants or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough?

Cruise: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today, where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people, okay, against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs...

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To: camle

yup, he's looney as a bed bug.. so cute though with that big schnoz of his, too bad he's so short. Maybe scientology can help him grow a few inches...


121 posted on 06/24/2005 11:17:05 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: somerville

I'm a Balehead, and while I've heard he doesn't really enjoy doing publicity, I was still irked at TomKat for stealing the thunder at the Batman Begins premiere. One would have thought Cruise was in the movie the way he was working the crowd. G-d don't like ugly though and poor Katie was not asked to come back for the sequel while Bale, Caine, Oldman and Freeman will be back.


122 posted on 06/24/2005 11:27:49 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Gloria Steinem is Christian Bale's stepmother, not mother in law. And since his father died recently, does that still make her his stepmother ?


123 posted on 06/24/2005 11:32:38 AM PDT by somerville
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Gloria Steinem is Christian Bale's stepmother, not mother in law. And since his father died recently, does that still make her his stepmother ?


124 posted on 06/24/2005 11:32:39 AM PDT by somerville
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To: RedWhiteBlue

I know a lot of psychiatrists who have helped people, including me.In fact it has changed my life enormously for the better.

Also, some psychiatrists are also psychoanalysts, which requires even more training. I do not believe it is a pseudo science, but I think we can all agree to disagree on this issue


125 posted on 06/24/2005 11:37:39 AM PDT by somerville
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Looks like we need Cruise Control.


126 posted on 06/24/2005 11:39:44 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Porterville

No, psychologists are not permitted to write prescriptions.

Also, some people who are, say clinically depressed, need to be treated first medically, so that their mood stabilizes. Most shrinks recommend talk therapy for those on medication. Medication does not solve your problems.


127 posted on 06/24/2005 11:42:18 AM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville

I agree. Tom Cruise is certifiably nuts. He had the best PR person in the business for fifteen years, and she did a masterful job of keeping "the real Tom Cruise" hidden beneath a Jerry Maguire exterior. But TC ditched that PR person and hired his own sister. Now dopey Tom is out and about being himself...a nut.


128 posted on 06/24/2005 11:42:29 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: brwnsuga

I must be a Balehead too. I also didn't like to hear about Cruise stealing Christian's thunder at the Batman premiere. I think Tom is worried about getting old and being yesterday's news. Handsome, younger and more talented actors like Christian Bale must be very worrisome for old Tom.

Katie Holmes was the weakest part of Batman. Loved Freeman, Oldman, Caine, though and am glad they will be back.


129 posted on 06/24/2005 11:45:21 AM PDT by somerville
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To: frogjerk
Correct. This is impossible since they teach that the Christian idea of God is an implant from aliens from another planet. I wish someone would ask Cruise a question like: "Do you believe that Xenu 75 million years ago sent a boatload of aliens to earth to wipe them out using nuclear weapons and that their thetans (souls) were reprogrammed?"

A reporter came close to asking that (they asked if Tom found similarities in the WOTW storyline and the Xenu storyline) and Tom gave the typical Scientologist response, which is to avoid the question by questioning the person asking the question.

Follow his interviews, when he gets asked about Scientology turf, he goes on the offensive and questions the questioner and whether they are qualified to ask the question, rather than provide the answer, which would would then open Scientology to ridicule.

130 posted on 06/24/2005 11:53:43 AM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: weegee
Might be why they would play up the "nazi" card.

More likely, it's just a ruse (although Co$ is no friend of Germany). He's depending on the emotional reaction to finding out someone worked with the Nazis to overwhelm their ability to question and verify. If he delivers the line well enough, who's going to question him?

131 posted on 06/24/2005 11:58:32 AM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: Cinnamon Girl
The guy reads some articles and right away he's an expert on pyschiatry and drug therapy. He can reasonably tell Matt Lauer that Lauer doesn't know anything about the subject, but can he tell that to all psychiatrists and researchers?

That's the flaw in Tom's argument and his purpose. He's asking that we accept his opinion over Matt's opinion, since he's read some articles. Uh huh... some articles provided by Co$ perhaps?

Tom then goes over the top by choosing extreme examples that he then applies across the whole spectrum of drug therapy.

132 posted on 06/24/2005 12:06:35 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: BlackRain
My personal favourite example of thetan effects is Hubbard's clam story. Humans are, in Hubbard's cosmology, directly descended from sand clams that lived along surf-pounded shore lines and because of the action of waves, these clams were caught in a constant dilemma - they did not know whether they should open or close themselves, depending on whether they were under or out of the water. Body thetans in the clams fed off this trauma and now reside in human beings where they continue to inflict their painful memories on their hosts such that someone who mimics the action of the clam with their hands is able to invoke the body thetans in another person who will experience a pain in their jaw.

Who will be the first interviewer to do this to Tom?? Of course, he's probably paid enough money to be Clear, so maybe they should do that to Katie? Since she's just starting out, there should be a profound reaction. :-)

133 posted on 06/24/2005 12:12:09 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: bobwoodard

Since you figured out Tom's M.O, I think you would be well qualified to interview him. Any chance of getting to him ?


134 posted on 06/24/2005 12:14:11 PM PDT by somerville
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Lauer and Cruise = Loony bin TV.


135 posted on 06/24/2005 12:15:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Porterville
I thought psycologist often cross into psychiatry and give out drugs like candy?

Now you're asking scary questions. Yes and No. In most states, psychologists aren't allowed to prescribe or dispense prescription drugs. Only MD's (or someone working under the supervision of an MD, like a Physician's Assistant) can do that. If a psychologist thinks you need to be on some sort of medication (antidepressant, Ritalin, etc), they'll send you to an MD to confirm the diagnosis and get a script.

But a couple of years ago, that standard was changed for those that live in New Mexico. I'm not sure what other states (if any) followed suit. Maybe California? I found THIS through Google. I don't know how it turned out, but to me the idea of someone that doesn't have any medical training be allowed to prescribe mind-altering drugs is a bit scary. IMO, that WOULD lead to antidepressants being prescribed like candy, but I think some of that happens anyway.

Case in point, my ex d-i-l became unhappy and discouraged with life in general. She wasn't clinically depressed or even close to it. What made her so unhappy with her life was that she thought that by that point in her life that she and my stepson should have achieved a more comfortable lifestyle. Hubby tried to talk to her about his son's lack of ambition, and would have happily whacked him upside the head, but every time he tried to get anything out of her she would clam up and refuse to say anything bad.

She started seeing a psychologist or therapist -- I don't know which. Instead of working with her about either confronting and trying to solve her issues -- really doing something constructive with her or my stepson, or learning to accept the situation if that was the appropriate response, she was promptly sent to a Dr. who wrote a script for Prozac. So it still got prescribed like candy anyway. She described the medication as wonderful, "smoothing out all of the peaks and valleys." IOW, she was numbed. So she never confronted her problems, and, not surprisingly, they didn't go away. They're now divorced and she is still on Prozac. Got it like candy.

I do not mean to imply that these drugs should never be prescribed to anyone. I do believe that there are people with severe imbalances beyond their control, and the drugs can be a godsend to them if proper care is taken to find out which ones work in each individual situation and not over-prescribe. I would never presume to tell someone that cannot function or get out of bed or is suicidal due to true clinical depression, or has schizophrenia that they shouldn't be getting help through pharmacology.

136 posted on 06/24/2005 12:24:12 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: GulfWar1Vet

"...Speilberg better make some moves in stopping gay boy or no one will see the War of Worlds."

Don't count on it. In Germany, Spielberg compared his donations to Holocaust foundations to Cruise's dedication to Scientology in order to defend him.


137 posted on 06/24/2005 12:24:47 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: somerville
Since you figured out Tom's M.O, I think you would be well qualified to interview him. Any chance of getting to him?

Me? No chance at all, but everyone should check out: http://www.xenu.com/archive/baloney_detection.html.

The site is a great resource for watching Co$ members in action and what to expect/anticipate.

Plus, you get to find out that we're descended from clams! Oops, ruined just one of the surprises. :-)

138 posted on 06/24/2005 12:30:13 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: bobwoodard

Thanks ! I think the Jackson jurors should have read this.


139 posted on 06/24/2005 12:38:43 PM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville

I did correct myself in post 82. I don't know if she would still be his stepmother.


140 posted on 06/24/2005 12:41:20 PM PDT by NotSoFreeStater
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