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Graham says support for war waning in S.C. (R/D-S.C. Senator continues to show true colors)
Charleston Post & Courier ^ | 6-24-05 | LIZ SIDOTI

Posted on 06/24/2005 4:50:47 AM PDT by The Anti-Democrat

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To: 4everontheRight

Lindsey, you aren't fit to speak for S.C. You didn't care what they thought about the filibuster, and you certainly do NOT have the intellect to understand by electing G.W. they made their feelings about this war and the president known.

Ravanel has my pledged support.

Lindsey has less than four years left off his time in Washington.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 6:42:45 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: JohnBDay

I've had a few opportunities to hear Mr. Ravenel speak on several issues and there's no doubt he's the guy who should have been sent to Washington.


22 posted on 06/24/2005 6:44:55 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: Terrence DoGood

I don't know this Ravenel well. Who is he? Was his father a "moderate" Republican congressman from SC who threatened to turn Democrat in the early 1990s but was persuaded not to do so by the late RNC chair Lee Atwater? Whatever happened to Mrs. Atwater, by the way?


23 posted on 06/24/2005 6:50:11 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Soul Seeker

SC has not defeated an incumbent senator since 1966, and even then the incumbent had appointed himself to a temporary stint in the Senate. Most SC incumbents are safe for senator.


24 posted on 06/24/2005 6:51:19 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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Typical media phenomenon. The media reports things are bad, then polls the people, then reports that the people think things are bad. Voila, issue swings whichever way the media chooses.

It's a BS tactic, and our Senators are either in favor of it (the tactic -OR- the underlying issue), or not bright enough to see through it.

25 posted on 06/24/2005 6:55:44 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I agree with the media phenomenon assertion. If it bleeds it leads, local, US or world news, it's all the same.


26 posted on 06/24/2005 7:02:47 AM PDT by texan75010 (You lost - MoveOn...to France, or Canada, or New Zealand, or Germany...take your pick.)
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To: Theodore R.

Not when you tell constituents you know how they feel about an important issue, but that you know BETTER. As Graham did.

Graham screwed himself with the filibuster. Now he does so with WOT. And in his calls to raise taxes for social Security.

Ravanel finished seond in the primaries last fall for Senate. he has announced interest in running in '08. he has the money to do so. He has the support of grassroots conservatives that no longer will support Graham.

Lindsey will be gone in '08.


27 posted on 06/24/2005 7:03:28 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: mystery-ak

AF makes more sense....he is losing conservative support so moving to shore up the middle in hopes of keeping his seat.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 7:07:55 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: Terrence DoGood; mystery-ak

Oh! Air Force. That explains a lot.

/weak attempt at humor.


29 posted on 06/24/2005 7:11:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Soul Seeker
Does LG know the radio played his "Vietnam" sound-bite all day yesterday?

Bastard.

He thinks McCain will give him an AG spot, which makes his actions all the most despicable.

In SC there should be a conservative nipping his heels everyday, 24/7.
30 posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:12 AM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: The Anti-Democrat

Sounds like he is waiting to take over for McCain so he can be McMedia's favorite Republican.


31 posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:59 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Peach; leadpenny; OldFriend; All

I just found this on DU, not sure how true it is, but if it is true it's downright disgusting



Yesterday Sen. Graham told Rummy-the-Dummy that even in the conservative state of South Carolina he was hearing grumblings about the war in Iraq. This morning, on learning of the five female Marines killed in Iraq, I called Senator Graham's office. I talked to an aide for about 10 minutes. I said that I assumed that Sen. Graham meant that he was hearing anti-war sentiments from SC Republicans. The aide said that was exactly what Graham was saying.

The aide agreed with everything I had to say! I told him that I am a Democrat and was deeply offended by Roves remarks about 9/11. Graham's aide agreed with me. I told him that I really think the shit will hit the fan next week when the additional Abu Ghraib pictures and videos are released. The aide not only agreed, but told me that that is Sen. Graham's sentiment too.

I told Graham's aide that we must find a way out of Iraq and that we must avoid future wars in the region. He agreed 100%. I told him that we need a full bi-partisan investigation into how and why we went to war in Iraq in general, and the implications of the Downing Street Minutes in particular. He agreed and offered that Sen. Graham, as an Air Force Reserve lawyer, is concerned about violations of international law in going to war and in our treatment of prisoners.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1881916


32 posted on 06/24/2005 7:39:43 AM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: colonialhk

This is South Carolina.

Conservative state.

Republican primaries attended by the most conservative.

There is no middle ground that can save him.


33 posted on 06/24/2005 7:39:53 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: roses of sharon

I didn't know his remarks were there, but could have guessed.

I wonder if S.C. have an ability to recall like california? If so, they shouldn't wait for '08 to remove him.


34 posted on 06/24/2005 7:41:30 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Theodore R.
I don't know this Ravenel well. Who is he? Was his father a "moderate" Republican congressman from SC who threatened to turn Democrat in the early 1990s but was persuaded not to do so by the late RNC chair Lee Atwater? Whatever happened to Mrs. Atwater, by the way?

For what it is worth, I believe that I read somewhere that he is distant kin to Charles "Pug" Ravenel.

35 posted on 06/24/2005 7:45:36 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: leadpenny
Just called Graham's office in D.C.

Asked the gal who answered if she thought the people in South Carolina are the cut and run type. Asked if that is what he thinks of us.

She hung up on me without a word. But she heard my words!

36 posted on 06/24/2005 8:31:51 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: The Anti-Democrat

What's this guy's background??

Was he ALWAYS a Republican, or did he become a Republican of convenience? He sounds like a yellow-bellied liberal to me, more and more.

I hope the good people of South Carolina flush him down the bowl next primary time. We don't need another John McCain.


37 posted on 06/24/2005 8:35:37 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: hipaatwo

Aaargh!!!

Graham's office sound just like leftists. And agreeing with a Democrat, over EVERYTHING, makes Graham less than a RINO.

He's despicable.


38 posted on 06/24/2005 9:16:41 AM PDT by Peach
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To: hipaatwo; upchuck; MACVSOG68

Ping to #34 on this thread.

Check out what Graham's office staff is saying to Democratic callers!


39 posted on 06/24/2005 9:18:05 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Soul Seeker

Few states have senatorial recall. WI does but declined to recall Russ Feingold some years ago. It is also not clear if the U.S. Senate would accept senatorial recall, for the procedure is not in the Constitution.

Graham sees McCain as a likely nominee in 2008, and McCain may win the nomination because of the weakness of his potential opponents. Wouldn't that be a shame. But Graham could be as entrenched in SC as Hagel is in NE.


40 posted on 06/24/2005 9:23:02 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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