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To: Smokin' Joe

THE PROBLEN IS OVERCROWDING FROM POPULATION GROWTH.

CAUSED BY MASSIVE IMMIGRATION.

If they didn't need to make room to house and supply all those immigrants, they wouldn't need to take your property for any reason.

There would be plenty of room and resources and roads and parking lots for Americans, OUR children, and for wildlife.

Population growth from immigration is what has been taking your freedoms away.

So long as we flood the country with people, so long will even I agree that our rights and freedoms must be renegotiated down.


313 posted on 06/24/2005 9:44:59 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
Come on, the illegals usually occupy housing at a phenomenal occupancy per unit. If they just pushed the locals out, they could pack in five or six times the number of illegals.

Nope, this is just a new twist on the old gig of taking prime land (waterfront property in the SCOTUS case) and turning it over to the gubmint's cronies when it is decided that the new sewer plant would be better located on cousin Ed's property downwind of town after all(which was purchased from cousin Ed at a huge profit to cousin Ed, who, naturally, shares his largesse).

The taxpayers eat that cost, either through property taxes, bond issues, or more pressure on the local police to write people up for jaywalking and spitting on the sidewalk.

In the meantime, the cronies grease palms to purchase the siezed 'surplus' property for pennies on the dollar, and kick back a chunk of the profit to the folks who set the deal up. Then they develop it into ritzy megabuck makers or tenaments to be, and make their own private killing.

Now the SCOTUS has just eliminated cousin Ed and the new sewer plant from the equation, which means there won't be all those pork barrel construction jobs for the illegal immigrants to take. It is a win-win deal for the local gubmint gang and the deveolper, who both get a bigger slice of your pie.

The illegals, meanwhile can only get jobs as taxi drivers and in housekeeping.

You, on the other hand, as a property owner, get screwed.

317 posted on 06/24/2005 10:04:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Age of Reason
Okay, Legal Immigrants.

If they didn't need to make room to house and supply all those immigrants, they wouldn't need to take your property for any reason.

I don't think this is being done to house 'first time home buyers', or legal immigrants, unless you count everyone who came over sfter the first couple of boats. It is not a question of space, but one of greed.

Population growth from immigration is what has been taking your freedoms away.

So long as we flood the country with people, so long will even I agree that our rights and freedoms must be renegotiated down.

Correct.

The threat of high rates of immigration of any stripe (legal or otherwise) without assimilation (which is what the last decade or two of hyphenation has effectively prevented) is this: When people who come here from elsewhere, who do not understand the language, attempt to learn about America (should they even make the attemt) they will be spoon fed tripe in the guise of history by teachers in school systems who seldom understand the founders or the founding documents any better than their students.

This is no accident. The socialist/Marxist presence in America has been subverting the concept of liberty for a long time (they started before the '60s, but that is when I started really noticing).

The more people who do not understand either the American Republic, the basic concepts thereof, and the freedoms which appertain, the more useful idiots there are who will vote for socialists based on what they believe will land on their plate as a result, regardless of the unconstitutionality or immorality of the actions of their elected officials.

To someone whose government decreed every aspect of their lives, the ability to buy what they can afford is 'freedom'. The broader concept is lost on them.

If these types of rulings continue (as if this one is not enough!), the broader concept of freedom may be lost completely.

This is just one arena in the culture war that goes beyond just culture, but toward economic destabilization. There is much, much more: (see post 29) another thread.

While my intent was to describe the problem simply from the incredible opportunities which will be presented for local graft and corruption, you have touched on a broader issue we should all pay attention to.

338 posted on 06/25/2005 1:52:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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