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Browser makers warned against ad-blocking
ZDNet..au ^ | 6-23-2005 | Renai LeMay, ZDNet Australia

Posted on 06/23/2005 12:34:42 PM PDT by Uncle Fud

The end of free Internet content will come when Web browsers start blocking online advertisements by default, a DoubleClick executive has warned.

Bennie Smith, the online advertising network's privacy chief, told ZDNet Australia the popularity of tools like Adblock -- an extension to the Mozilla Firefox browser -- which makes blocking online ads simple was tied to "a negative vibe against advertising in general".

However, only the online arena is able to easily produce and widely distribute such tools, he added.

He said if a similar tool could be produced for newspapers, it would not be accepted by consumers.

"You'd go to your local corner shop and buy the daily paper, and you'd have these large holes where the ads were.

"You'd somehow feel like your 25 cents had not gotten full value," he said.

Part of the Internet's value proposition lies in the provision of large amounts of free content. "But that content is not without cost. And that cost is my eyeballs seeing an ad on a page. Or within an e-mail, or next to my search results, or however it's going to come," Smith explained.

If any browser manufacturer considered implementing an ad-blocking feature as a default option, Smith said they should consider their own position as a marketer [of their own products] and a publisher of content.

"They would be harming their own customer relationships to create a short-term, short-sighted, limited-effectiveness tool," he said. "One that they would probably end up having to withdraw from the market."

If enough people started blocking ads, Smith warned that publishers would start charging for content.

"In an offline world, what would happen in that case is that the 25c newspaper would cost $5," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: advertising; annoying; browser; doubleclick; flash; internet; paininrectum; popups
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From the "privacy offier of DoubleClick" (probably a candidate for one of the world's briefest job descriptions)....this is almost child's play to attack - I'll confine myself to saying that the right newspaper analogy would be a screaming monkey that popped up in the middle of page 3 and demanded that you punch him before you were allowed to proceed to page 4.
1 posted on 06/23/2005 12:34:44 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Uncle Fud
... newspaper analogy would be a screaming monkey that popped up in the middle of page 3

Like an Editorial Page?

2 posted on 06/23/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: Uncle Fud

I despise DoubleClick and wish that the fleas of a thousand camels would infest the armpits of that executive. Popup and potentially destructive adware should be punishable by the death penalty.

Not that I have an opinion on that or anything.


3 posted on 06/23/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: Uncle Fud

...LOL...

Bet his ancestors were buggy whip makers...

I like the monkey analogy...


4 posted on 06/23/2005 12:38:12 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Uncle Fud
"In an offline world, what would happen in that case is that the 25c newspaper would cost $5," he said.

And almost no one would read it because almost no one's going to pay $5 for a newspaper. How hard is that to figure out?

5 posted on 06/23/2005 12:38:23 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Uncle Fud

I don't mind ads on pages but the pop-ups drive me nuts! I actually read some ads but never, ever pop-ups just because they make me so mad.


6 posted on 06/23/2005 12:38:28 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Uncle Fud

How many people think blocking unwanted pop-ups is a violation of freedom of speech? Show of hands?....Anyone?....Anyone at all?....


7 posted on 06/23/2005 12:38:30 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Uncle Fud

It's always nice to hear from an impartial analyst who's clearly looking out for our best interests.


8 posted on 06/23/2005 12:39:49 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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I bet they won't be a fan of the fact that I block most ads using my firewall....

To heck with Doubleclick.

9 posted on 06/23/2005 12:40:32 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: Uncle Fud
Next thing you know there will be TV execs that say the fast forward button on VCRs and DVRs are the tools of the devil. Wait, they've already told me I'm stealing by not sitting there and watching commercials.

I just need a way to turn Flash on and off on the fly. I already found a program which messes with the register so that Flash can be stopped, but you have to stop IE, run the program and then run IE again.

10 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
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To: mlc9852
Exactly. I do not block ads unless they (1) contain sound or animation, (2) popup or pop under (3) excessively slow the loading of the page, or (4) try to install something on my PC.

It's perfectly reasonable to advertise on the net without any of the above.

11 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:33 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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I'll confine myself to saying that the right newspaper analogy would be a screaming monkey that popped up in the middle of page 3 and demanded that you punch him before you were allowed to proceed to page 4.

You mean your paper doesn't have a screaming monkey?

12 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:40 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: Uncle Fud

The only think comparable in print is those cards that fall out of the magazine when you flip through the pages.


13 posted on 06/23/2005 12:42:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: KarlInOhio

I use Firefox and have buttons on my toolbar by which I can instantly switch graphics on/off and Flash on/off


14 posted on 06/23/2005 12:42:45 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Uncle Fud
Part of the Internet's value proposition lies in the provision of large amounts of free content. "But that content is not without cost. And that cost is my eyeballs seeing an ad on a page. Or within an e-mail, or next to my search results, or however it's going to come," Smith explained.

No, the cost is a little file, applet, program, or script that the AD places on my computer without my knowledge or consent that tracks everything I do on the computer, steals my email address and then bombards me with spam, and hijacks my browser or worse.

15 posted on 06/23/2005 12:43:10 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Uncle Fud
No, he jumps up on every other page.
16 posted on 06/23/2005 12:43:20 PM PDT by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: Petronski

Only in articles about Howard Dean.


17 posted on 06/23/2005 12:43:40 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Petronski
Beats me, I literally can't remember the last time I bought a newspaper.

Oh yeah, it was back when I was housebreaking my bull terrier, that would have been early 2000.

18 posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:21 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: My2Cents
How can you tell if I am raising my hand or not?
19 posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:29 PM PDT by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: Larry Lucido
The only think comparable in print is those cards that fall out of the magazine when you flip through the pages.

Perhaps worse, though, are those cards that are stapled in so that the card is on page 60 but it sticks out halfway onto page 40 also.

20 posted on 06/23/2005 12:45:01 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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