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"The idiocy and evil of this decision are so obvious that even a DUmmie can see it."

I am not a DUer but I am a liberal and read DU frequently. I almost have to choke back tears to think that the liberals tipped the scales in favor of this. And I now have to change my political affiliation.

I can't change what's in my heart, however. I will always hold some liberal views, but I am a conservative in some ways too, number 1 of them being property rights, followed by fiscal conservatism and I'm not in favor of gun control.

I confess part of me thinks this did happen on W's watch, even though it was the liberals who sealed the deal. What this tells me is that neither party is to be trusted. You've got the republicans, who are really controlled by the neoconservatives (I did vote for Reagan, but old school republicans have gone by the wayside. Call me an isolationist who believes in not racking up deficits) and now you have the traitor dems.

Please don't think all liberals/leftists/democrats are dummies. It's mostly the democratic politicians who've messed things up.

Some people on this forum will trash you for being liberal (though you don't sound very liberal to me), but what you have just said is the truth. I happen to lean towards the conservative side, but I think we can both agree that the Democrats and the Republicans are both leading us down this tyrannical path. The lemmings can fight over who is better, the Democrats or the Republicans, but we know better--they're both corrupt.

I am not a DUer but I am a liberal and read DU frequently. I almost have to choke back tears to think that the liberals tipped the scales in favor of this. And I now have to change my political affiliation.

I can't change what's in my heart, however. I will always hold some liberal views, but I am a conservative in some ways too, number 1 of them being property rights, followed by fiscal conservatism and I'm not in favor of gun control.

I confess part of me thinks this did happen on W's watch, even though it was the liberals who sealed the deal. What this tells me is that neither party is to be trusted. You've got the republicans, who are really controlled by the neoconservatives (I did vote for Reagan, but old school republicans have gone by the wayside. Call me an isolationist who believes in not racking up deficits) and now you have the traitor dems.

Please don't think all liberals/leftists/democrats are dummies. It's mostly the democratic politicians who've messed things up.

Welcome to FR. I know myself, I might have gotten a few battle scars myself on here, but then again, not everyone agrees with everything here. I see myself as a Judeo-Christian, social, military and religious conservative but I'm much more of an centrist and lean "Third Way" (some) on economic matters. I admit I get into trouble for that. I do believe in strong property rights and I'm a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. I seen my fair share of conservatives who are mean as well as conservatives who are nice and liberals cover that range too. I do think both parties have dropped the ball on doing what is right for America.

The Democrats hurt themselves with a very, very liberal social agenda and hand outs on welfare. I don't see welfare as a negative as long as it is a hand up, not a hand out. I do think FDR had some good ideas, but I think LBJ screwed it up and with the hippies of the 1960's, we are reaping what we have sowed. It's a shame the Democrats ruined themselves, we need to have more Zell Millers, Scoop Jacksons and so on.

The Republicans have their monied interests, although I do say the Democrats have their share too, and like hte Democrats with their liberal social policies, the Republicans with their money policies leave the common person out in the cold with turkeys like CAFTA and the recent "bankruptcy reform." I've been registered Republican since 1984 when I turned 18, but there are times I feel politically homeless.

Getting back to this ruling, I think it is dead wrong and we are all under the gun if we own property, or even rent it.

I'm kind of glad to see some on the DU side agree with us. We need to stop the name calling such as using "DUmmies" or "Freeptards" and take a look on where things are headed in this country and I do fear for our future. I know on most things, I'll never agree with most over at DU, well, I told you where I lay politically, but it is kind of refreshing to see that this is so bad that both sides are crying foul. I doubt we will get to the point to were DU and FR will break bread, but as someone else said, "when both FR and DU agree on something, it must really be bad."

The funny thing is that the DU threads have exactly the same observation (this decision is so wrong even those crazy right-wing FReepers are appalled).