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a little story by a TWSmith: Sam Colbert was the big time Choctaw Indian Slave owner that owned many slaves down in arond Choctaw county were my relatives were from. There is no other Sam Colbert that old I could find but Sam Colbert the Choctaw Indian. Many people have told me that indeed Sam Colbert the slave owner was the father of Edmund Colbert (my Great-Great Grandfather). I know Indians and Whites fathered many children by slaves.

Choctaw Indians as Slaveowners

Brought to Indian Territory in the 1830's Black Choctaws arrived with the Choctaw Indians as slaves. Prior to removal the Choctaws had been exposed to Africans in their native homeland of Mississippi. Slaves were a part of the Europeran culture to which the Choctaws would later adapt. Slavery would be one of the institutions the nation would adopt. Chief Moshulatubbee had slaves ....

1 posted on 06/21/2005 12:32:51 PM PDT by rface
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Will some one buy the squaw a stiff drink?


2 posted on 06/21/2005 12:36:46 PM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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I have Indians in my ancestry too, and crosses don't offend me.

You know, if this woman has such a problem with Christians and Christianity, maybe she should get her a greyhound ticket to a place more sympathetic to her views, like Beijing.


3 posted on 06/21/2005 12:37:35 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (I will never be reconstructed, Deo Vindice)
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>> It is not the Indian way to shove our beliefs into the face of others. <<

Neither is it the Indian way to abolish all expressions of other peope's culture, I suppose?


4 posted on 06/21/2005 12:38:05 PM PDT by dangus
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>> I wonder if the city would be as accommodating were I to request the construction of a 30-foot medicine wheel. <<

I would think so.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 12:38:46 PM PDT by dangus
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I have been called "savage" or "soulless heathen", among other names, by Liberals and DemocRATS all my life. I just don't let it get to me.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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Nature abhores vacuums. Granted the experience of having whites come to the new world was not good for the American Indians, what would have ultimately happened had that NOT happened, is that one or another of the Japanese, Chinese, or Arabs would have gotten here.


8 posted on 06/21/2005 12:39:17 PM PDT by tahotdog
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Debbie, get over it.


9 posted on 06/21/2005 12:39:20 PM PDT by My2Cents
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The Cross will be a reminder that Christ died for us.


10 posted on 06/21/2005 12:39:27 PM PDT by frogjerk
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sounds like the naive rantings of a good democrat


11 posted on 06/21/2005 12:40:17 PM PDT by sfrepub
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There is a big difference between the doctrine of Christ and bad things done by foolish people in the name of Christ. Forced conversions are, in no sense of the word, Biblical.


12 posted on 06/21/2005 12:40:48 PM PDT by Numidian Horse (Numidian Horse)
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typical leftist intolerance. I'm assuming that this cross is being built on privately owned land, perhaps a church, and that the city is merely approving the structure. What would this woman have the city do - ban the building of religious symbols by private individuals on private land? Or just the symbols that offend her? Sounds like someone needs to read the First Amendment again.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT by sassbox
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Everybody had enough of "ethnic sensitivity" yet?


15 posted on 06/21/2005 12:41:03 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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1/8 Creek Indian, hard-core Republican, and Christian supporter. Also happen to live in Columbia.

Stick a sock in it Debbie.
18 posted on 06/21/2005 12:42:41 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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***Ah, if only Christians were as sensitive.***



Christian ethic:

"And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offense toward God, and toward men."
- St. Paul Acts 24:16


Modern American ethic:

"And this is what I try to achieve, to always keep myself from being offended by God or men."
- Joe Average Victim
20 posted on 06/21/2005 12:45:38 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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It will remind me of the fact that my great-great-great-great-great-great-great . . . grandfather in Connaught was fooled by the monks into giving up nature-worship and losing his chance at copulating with beasts during Samhain, and the fact that my great-great-great-great-great-great-great . . . grandfather in Swabia never got to enjoy being a slaveboy for a lascivious Roman because the local Christians intimidated everyone to adopt their religion.


23 posted on 06/21/2005 12:50:24 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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I drive past corrals all week. Many of them have jackasses standing in them. I don't let it bother me. You just have to remember those immortal words of Rodney King. "Ca...Ca...Can't we all just get along?" LOL


24 posted on 06/21/2005 12:50:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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It is not the Indian way to shove our beliefs into the face of others.

Translation: We were conquered and will now pretend our surrender was a deliberate act to display our phenomenal superiority as an enlightened race.

25 posted on 06/21/2005 12:55:44 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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Nothing like a whiff of intolerance in the morning!


26 posted on 06/21/2005 1:00:56 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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Do no harm? The giant cross will remind me ...

So reminding someone of something you do not want to be reminded of is 'harm'?

30 posted on 06/21/2005 1:23:23 PM PDT by nosofar
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Cry me a river (then give me a break).


31 posted on 06/21/2005 1:25:06 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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