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Safer by the minute?(Texas Minutemen)
The Monitor ^ | June 21,2005 | Dulcinea Cuellar

Posted on 06/21/2005 9:34:59 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

GOLIAD — Coyotes are known to take the back roads — tiny farm-to-market roads no one takes, isolated highways and small-town county roads.

"They are smart about it," Goliad rancher Elizardo "Charlie" Hernandez said of illegal immigrant smugglers who are paid more than $800 to shuttle people from Mexico. "They don’t get caught."

More than 200 Texans from as far away as Houston and the Rio Grande Valley met in Goliad on Monday night to organize the first Minuteman Project in Texas, hoping to curb illegal alien activity like the type Hernandez sees on his property at least once a week.

The Minuteman Project, an activist organization that highlights illegal immigration and tries to stop it by reporting it to the U.S. Border Patrol, is forming chapters in Texas. The Goliad chapter was created Monday night and is the first one of its kind in the state. Other chapters are scheduled to follow in the Rio Grande Valley and West Texas.

The Minuteman gained notoriety in April when it staged a month-long illegal alien watch in Arizona, "ground zero" for human trafficking, according to the group. The group also favors militarizing the border.

The group has rankled civil rights organizations including the American Civil Liberties Union and the South Texas Civil Rights project.

Abner Burnett, the director of the South Texas Civil Rights Project in San Juan, called the Minuteman "vigilantes" and "xenophobes."

Burnett also called the Minuteman a militia with armed volunteers patrolling the border where they intimidate immigrants. However, farmers and other residents call the Minuteman group a "Godsend," hoping the group will be able to curb illegals from trespassing on their property and damaging their land.

Mike Vickers, a Falfurrias-area veterinarian, said the Minuteman have promised to help curb illegal immigrant crossings on his land.

"Every night there are 50 to 100 illegal," crossing his land, he said. "It’s a problem all over South Texas and the Border Patrol can’t get a hold of it. (Illegals) destroy property and break into homes, something needs to be done; the problem’s getting worse."

Vickers, who will probably spearhead the Rio Grande Valley chapter, said he turned to the all-volunteer organization because the government wasn’t helping him.

"It’s always been a problem, but it seems like since 9/11 the problem keeps getting worse," he said. "A lot of (illegals who come across) are sick and have diseases, they take animals’ water and break into homes."

Juanita Valdez-Cox, regional manager of the United Farmer Workers Union in San Juan, said the Minuteman forming in the Valley is not the answer to the widespread immigration problem.

"The Minuteman – that’s just going to create more problems," Valdez-Cox said. "What laws can they enforce? You have to work through the process, (state) reps… President Bush."

More than 200 immigrants died last year trying to cross the border, she explained. Activist groups such as the Minuteman should concentrate on saving those people.

"Immigrants are dying as they cross and people are upset because they are taking jobs… the farmer is crying," she said. "Yet our laws are not changing – it’s not the Minuteman that are going to change that. It has to be immigrant reform status at the top with representatives, senators and the president."

Chris Simcox, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, told the group in Goliad that the organization is ultimately about saving lives and stopping the illegal trafficking of human beings.

"What we have now is a slave trade," Simcox told the group. "Only we have a politically correct term for it called, ‘indentured servitude.’"

Simcox said he’s tired of seeing people die trying to cross the border illegally.

"I’m tired of seeing people packed in trunks, the back of vans, chased on roads, children dying in the desert and women being raped," he said. "We need to stop the human smuggling trade and shut down an immoral industry – that’s the American way."

San Juan farmer Fred Schuster said he believes in the Minuteman organization.

"We don’t go down to the river anymore," he said of his 2,000-acre vegetable farm, which partly overlooks the Rio Grande. "It’s sad, really. The illegals, the drug trade… they don’t seem too concerned with getting caught."

According to the Border Patrol, the Falfurrias checkpoint detained 119,233 immigrants so far this year alone, and not all of them are from Mexico. Some are from Brazil and other parts of Latin America. Border Patrol officials in McAllen could not comment specifically about the Minuteman Project.

Simcox said the Mexican border is so porous, it’s can be very easy for a terrorist to sneak in.

"Right now we have a president who has gone AWOL from serving our nation," he said. "He is derelict in his duty when it comes to protecting our nation and our way of life."

Ben Johnson, director of the Immigration Policy Center a think-tank in Washington, D.C., said name-calling isn’t the best way to create reform.

"The bottom line is militarizing the border is having the National Guard on the border is not going to solve the problem," he said. "You can’t build a fence tall enough to keep illegals out."

Enforcement is only part of solving the rabid immigration problem facing the United States, he said.

"We need a comprehensive immigration reform plan that encourages immigrants to go though the front door instead of the back," he said. "We need to understand why they are coming, what they want and why immigration happens."

Of the eight to 12 million illegal immigrants who enter the United States every year, about 60 percent are from Mexico, he said.

"To have these guys on the border with guns – the border is dangerous enough," Johnson said. "If they aren’t careful, someone’s going to get shot."

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Dulcinea Cuellar covers entertainment, features and general assignments for The Monitor. You can reach her at (956) 683-4427.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; goliad; immigrantlist; texasminutemen
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Bill Parmley, a petroleum geologist/minuteman, handing out flags.

1 posted on 06/21/2005 9:34:59 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Mike Vickers, a Falfurrias-area veterinarian, said the Minuteman have promised to help curb illegal immigrant crossings on his land."

"Every night there are 50 to 100 illegal," crossing his land, he said. "It’s a problem all over South Texas and the Border Patrol can’t get a hold of it. (Illegals) destroy property and break into homes, something needs to be done; the problem’s getting worse."

PRAY for the day the BUSH ADM wakes up on this issue..
Republicans will take the blame for our open borders as they "control" the congress and white house..

When you make billions in illegal drugs and smuggling paying millions in bribes is not a problem.
2 posted on 06/21/2005 9:38:46 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (mark rich, s burger,flight 800, waco,cbs's national guard-just forget thats the game)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"You can’t build a fence tall enough to keep illegals out."

Wanna bet?

3 posted on 06/21/2005 9:44:01 AM PDT by Terabitten (Illegal aliens create "Representation without Taxation.")
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To: Terabitten

Just have to run enough volts through it.


4 posted on 06/21/2005 9:51:46 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


5 posted on 06/21/2005 10:04:10 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Terabitten
"Wanna bet?"

No, they're absolutely right; a fence isn't what we need. What we need is a big wall patrolled by National Guard troops with orders to protect American soil from invaders at all costs.
6 posted on 06/21/2005 10:10:26 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"The Minuteman – that’s just going to create more problems," Valdez-Cox said. "What laws can they enforce? You have to work through the process, (state) reps… President Bush."

Right, Juanita, hand the ball to the guys who won't run with it.

God bless the Minutemen!

7 posted on 06/21/2005 10:10:26 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: B4Ranch

Hey, did you hear about this?

Apparently there is some kind of disturbance on our southern border.

Do you think anybody has mentioned this to President Bush?

As a Texas rancher I would think that he would be concerned.


8 posted on 06/21/2005 10:14:16 AM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: gubamyster; SwinneySwitch
Warm Welcome in Texas for Minutemen

9 posted on 06/21/2005 10:14:34 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Eaker; B4Ranch; Gipper08
"Do you think anybody has mentioned this to President Bush?"

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Surely Karl Rove has mentioned somthing about it (at least in passing in the hallway)?

10 posted on 06/21/2005 10:15:53 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: NJ_gent

hehe... my idea of a fence is 20 feet of concrete topped by concentina wire.... :D


11 posted on 06/21/2005 10:16:52 AM PDT by Terabitten (Illegal aliens create "Representation without Taxation.")
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To: SwinneySwitch; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
I find it interesting (and effective) that MinutMan Parmley is handing out TEXAS STATE FLAGS instead of U.S. flags . .

(The career politicians (full-time OBLobbyists) have a BIG thorn under their saddle.)


12 posted on 06/21/2005 10:19:35 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"We need to understand why they are coming, what they want and why immigration happens."

If he doesn't understand this he is an idiot. They're coming for the social programs they get for themselves and their families, at the cost to the American taxpayers. They are also coming as they know Bush will offer citizenship to all illegals before he leaves office. That means they can vote on top of legally stealing from American citizens, as they do now. Illegal Immigration happens because our idiot politicians are too spineless to stop it.

13 posted on 06/21/2005 10:20:31 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: Terabitten
"hehe... my idea of a fence is 20 feet of concrete topped by concentina wire.... :D"

That'll work pretty well, I suspect. What do you say we take the $530 Billion 'pill bill' for Medicare (which some thing will top $700 Billion now) and use that money for this wall instead? That would actually be money well spent, and we could use the leftover cash to fund the maintenance and patrols for years to come.
14 posted on 06/21/2005 10:21:05 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Eaker
"Do you think anybody has mentioned this to President Bush?
As a Texas rancher I would think that he would be concerned."


If any illegals could actually get onto President Bush's ranch (what with that wonderful taxpayer-funded security force guarding it), he might actually care.
15 posted on 06/21/2005 10:22:52 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

"PRAY for the day the BUSH ADM wakes up on this issue."

They are very aware and awake on the issue. They are just on the wrong side of it.


16 posted on 06/21/2005 10:27:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: swampfox98
Illegal Immigration happens because our idiot politicians are too spineless to stop it.

That's why we have to approach it from another angle. Obviously, the politicians don't care that our nation is being invaded. So, convince them that there is a huge source of revenue out there that isn't being taxed. Our country was born because we had taxation without representation, but illegal aliens have representation without taxation! Illegals are included in the census that apportions our representatives in Congress. NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! :)

17 posted on 06/21/2005 10:27:55 AM PDT by Terabitten (Illegal aliens create "Representation without Taxation.")
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To: Happy2BMe
Those aren't Texas state flags, Happy.


18 posted on 06/21/2005 10:32:18 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico- beyond your expectations!)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


19 posted on 06/21/2005 10:35:18 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: YCTHouston; Texas Gal; DaGman; HOYA97; I_Publius; JesseJane; beeler; archy; Drammach; Woodstock; ...

Minutemen Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


20 posted on 06/21/2005 10:36:15 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico- beyond your expectations!)
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