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To: Borges
Sartre was not just leftist scum, but he was not even particularly intelligent.

L'Etre at Neant reads like a bad rehash of Heidegger by a college student who has not read Heidegger particularly well.

Sarte's "literature" is unreadable, politicized garbage, his "philosophy" is unreadable, derivative garbage, and his politics are execrable garbage.

The less said about his economic ideas, the better.

The fact is, Camus was a far more talented writer and philosopher than Sartre ever was or could be, and the neglect of Camus is far worse for France than the imagined neglect (Sartre is still celebrated in France and he was lionized while alive, despite the ridiculous comments in the article) of the cheerleader of the 1972 Munich terrorists.

Ecrasez le mediocrite!

4 posted on 06/21/2005 7:24:50 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake

Very well said. I've often thought that both Sartre and Foucault each read one Nietzsche book once and then based their entire philosophical outlook on that reading. That said, at least Foucault has some interesting thoughts on epistemology and ontology. Sartre just sucks.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 7:29:25 AM PDT by Seydlitz
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To: wideawake
George Will told an anecdote that Sartre visited Cuba in the 1960s. Castro squired him around town and they came upon a lemonade stand. The lemonade was warm and Castro asked the attendant why. She said the man who was supposed to be fix the machine didn't show up. Castro bristled and said "Tell him if this lemonade is cold the next time I stop by he'll have a problem with me!" Sartre later wrote in his diary of the incident: "A leader talking directly to his people...this is true democracy!" What a Stalinist dupe.
8 posted on 06/21/2005 7:34:26 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake

Etre at Neant reads like a bad rehash of Heidegger by a college student who has not read Heidegger particularly.

___A very glib dismissal. Have you read L'ETRE or BEING AND TIME? There are some shared concepts, but Sartre delves into human reality in a way Heidegger never did.

Sartre was a leftist kook (and Heidegger supported the Nazis) outside of his philosophy, but as a philospher, one of the giants of the 20th century....I'm not going to let my politics deny his talent.


9 posted on 06/21/2005 7:36:17 AM PDT by Bushbacker (f)
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To: wideawake
Also there was a famous list of the 100 most influential books of all time and Sartre and Simon De Beavouir were one of two husband and wife teams.(Being and Nothingness, The Second Sex). The other couple being William Godwin and Mary Wollstonecraft. Heck if you extend it to 200 you probably could have had daughter Mary and son-in-law Percy Shelley. My family suddenly feels unaccomplished!
11 posted on 06/21/2005 7:37:57 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake

i agree with your post 100%. i like camus.

>"L'Etre at Neant reads like a bad rehash of Heidegger by a college student who has not read Heidegger particularly well."

it is a bad re-hash because sartre returned to the dualism that heidegger had worked long to reject.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 7:45:06 AM PDT by ken21
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To: wideawake

Camus was a far more talented writer and philosopher than Sartre ever was or could be.

___Camus was an essayist and a novelist, not a philosopher.


32 posted on 06/21/2005 6:38:42 PM PDT by Bushbacker (f)
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