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To: kabar
If we don't give our people the same legal tools in the WOT that we give to those pursuing drug dealers, then we are indeed in trouble.

Fine. Then you'll get what you are asking for. "Your papers, please."

The demise of the Patriot act will be followed by the demise of some of our fellow Americans.

Some of our fellow Americans are meeting their demise this very day in order to assure our liberty and that of our posterity.

If the events of September 11, 2001 happened because we didn't have enough laws on the books or because Americans had too many God-given rights, then I want my damned money back!

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

----Patrick Henry_______March 23, 1775.

210 posted on 06/22/2005 11:42:54 AM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: houeto
Fine. Then you'll get what you are asking for. "Your papers, please."

If you believe we are at war, and I do, special circumstances call for special measures. I wish we did have a "Your papers, please" mentality in view of the millions of illegal aliens pouring through our borders.

Some of our fellow Americans are meeting their demise this very day in order to assure our liberty and that of our posterity.

That's exactly right. As someone who has served in uniform in a war, I believe we should do everything possible to support our troops in the field and defend their families at home. We lost approximately 3000 people on 9/11 due to bad intelligence and artificial bureaucratic barriers, which prevented the exchange of information. Until 9/11 we were pursuing terrorists as criminals and not as combatants. We were concerned about protecting their rights so the intelligence side of the house couldn't exchange information with the criminal side.

If the events of September 11, 2001 happened because we didn't have enough laws on the books or because Americans had too many God-given rights, then I want my damned money back!

Neither is the case nor is it an either/or proposition. If you think living under the Patriot Act has affected your rights, then take your money and go somewhere else where you feel more free. WE ARE AT WAR. IT ISN'T OVER YET. HELLO.

211 posted on 06/22/2005 12:10:35 PM PDT by kabar
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