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To: bobhoskins
You were correct on one point, infinite judicial superceding of our Constitution.

Abortion is make believe. The 14th Amendment is referenced as right to privacy of the unborn, as stated. Smoking is simply one example of thousands of freedoms the courts have seen fit to adjudicate as not. The beheadings are what they are, ignored. It truly concerns me when people fight for the right to to burn our flag while judges are providing terrorists who destroy the same, let alone our country and military with constitutional rights...

202 posted on 06/21/2005 2:44:11 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Abortion is make believe.

Then what is everyone protesting about?

The 14th Amendment is referenced as right to privacy of the unborn, as stated.

So? Lots of people on each side of the argument bring in incorrect interpretations of the law. The 14th Amendment, Section 1, DOES make clear that the unborn are not citizens (as it does specifically state "born" as a requirement) but does immediately beg the question that if born can be a modifier on person, and the born modifier is not used for person when it comes to the protection of life in the same article, what is the definition of personhood? And that is where that battle should be fought ... if you define a person, the defined is protected by the 14th Amendment. (So, the 14th Amendment is actually a more pro-life-leaning Amendment anyway, I don't know why the pro-choice people try to fighht it out there). But none of that has much to do with flag-burning, does it?

Unless you take the position that we only have the rights GRANTED us by the Constitution, as opposed the the reality that government only have the powers we grant it. Let's get off abortion, though, as I'd have to come dangerously close to appear to support the pro-choicers to argue my point there. (But, to clarify, define a fetus as a person, and the Constitution will protect it. If you don't, it doesn't.)

Smoking is simply one example of thousands of freedoms the courts have seen fit to adjudicate as not.

Fascinating. So, the courts are always right? Because the courts take away something that was a right, we should vote, take a poll, or allow and Amendment that takes away another right?

The beheadings are what they are, ignored.

Self-contradictory statement, but I agree with the sentiment.

It truly concerns me when people fight for the right to to burn our flag while judges are providing terrorists who destroy the same, let alone our country and military with constitutional rights...

It truly concerns ME that plenty of people on a supposedly conservative message board would push for politically correct feel-good legislation that chips away at everyone's rights while providing protection to no one. What is the point?

And why just the flag? Why don't we protect all symbols of the government? Defacing anything of, for or by the goevernment should be punishable by law! All the funny photoshopped images posted on this site would result in a prison term, how about that?

Someone should try to answer this: 1) What rights would a flag-burning amendment protect? 2) If none, point out some other Amendments that only take away rights. Prohibition doesn't count.

203 posted on 06/21/2005 3:42:26 PM PDT by bobhoskins (Still thinking of a tagline ...)
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