To: Texas Federalist
I do not think that means what you think it it means.
My point was that citizens draw the line as to which "free" speech is acceptable and which is not. We can not yell "fire" in a crowded theater because we deemed it illegal and wrote laws to prevent it. We can not threaten the president's life because we supported laws to prevent it. There never has been an absolute free-ness of speech in this country. Historically we have placed limits on free speech for good reasons. Whether you agree with it or not in this instance, there is no principle-of-the-thing to prevent We the People from doing so again.
154 posted on
06/20/2005 2:54:17 PM PDT by
so_real
("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: so_real
My point was that citizens draw the line as to which "free" speech is acceptable and which is not. No, the Constitution draws the line, not a majority vote.
We can not yell "fire" in a crowded theater because we deemed it illegal and wrote laws to prevent it.
Yelling fire can be banned not because the people decided to ban it, but because it does not fall under free speech as protected by the Constitution.
We can not threaten the president's life because we supported laws to prevent it.
Death threats are not Constitutionally protected.
Whether you agree with it or not in this instance, there is no principle-of-the-thing to prevent We the People from doing so again.
Flag-burning is covered by the 1st Amendment. Otherwise, there would be no reason to amend the Constitution in order to ban flag-burning.
155 posted on
06/20/2005 3:11:34 PM PDT by
Modernman
("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
To: so_real
My point was that citizens draw the line as to which "free" speech is acceptable and which is not. We can not yell "fire" in a crowded theater because we deemed it illegal and wrote laws to prevent it. We can not threaten the president's life because we supported laws to prevent it. We are not able to write laws that violate the First Amendment to the Constitution. Nor should we amend the Constitution to weaken First Amendment protection. Neither of your examples are analogous for the reasons I and other individuals on this thread stated earlier.
175 posted on
06/21/2005 8:13:13 AM PDT by
Texas Federalist
(No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
To: so_real
We can not yell "fire" in a crowded theater because we deemed it illegal and wrote laws to prevent it. We can not threaten the president's life because we supported laws to prevent it.So, why not just write laws against it?
188 posted on
06/21/2005 10:23:47 AM PDT by
houeto
("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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