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More from the Greta's show...

Father called Joran at the casino. The group go to the casino to find Joran and he is not there when they arrive (not sure if Daddy VDS went also). Someone calls Joran again and they find out he is now at home. Greta asked how Joran got home from casino ang Jug said he does not know. So they all head back to Joran house (Jug says this was about 3:45am).

So the group gets back to the house, Joran's father keeps telling Joran not too say anything. Joran keeps telling his father that he wants to help them find their daughter. Father keeps repeating to Joran "say nothing", "say nothing".

This went on for maybe 15 minutes. Joran asked Jug to step back so he could talk to his father. Jug says he OVER heard enough to know that the Joran and his father know a lot more than what they are saying.

After the 15 minutes at the house they all go to the Holiday Inn (including Joran and Daddy VDS). Jug says that again the father (Paulus) was obnoxious and the security guard made him stand outside. Jug refers also to one of the brother being there and both Joran father and one of the brothers keep telling Joran not to say anything.

(more coming - in my next post)

More from Greta's show...

The whole group is still at the Holiday Inn...

Joran father is still being obnoxious... Joran's father steps in and says "This is not america - you have no manners - you have no manners. The night manager tells Daddy VDS to stand outside. So he does and then Daddy VDS starts staring down Beth (Natalee's Mother - Jug's wife) who was sitting in a car outside. (Remember they are all at the Holiday Inn)

Jug said there was more talking after that. Only 2 of the 3 boys were there. (Joran was one but it does not say which one of the brothers were there - I am thinking Deepak) - Police reports were taken and Jug says that his group went up and to bed (I assume the police requested they do this)

Jug now says (after being asked by Greta) which brother was it. He thinks it was Deepak. Deepak was as bad as Joran's father telling Joran not to say anything - that he does not have to talk etc...

Joran's father has no illusions about his son. He knew Joran was running wild, but didn't stop it. Natalee's disappearance is the result, and the father must be feeling a sense of guilt. In the end, even if Joran is proven innocent, the chain of events that led to her disappearance started with him. Joran has brought disgrace and shame upon himself and his family. The other two men are no better.