joran was playing black jack & didn't pay attention to anyone, even tho, NH had stopped at the table, introduced herself and left.
I saw those two interviewed too. It was like they were coached, with their crisp answers.
I don;t know what to believe, but I was stunned when the one said Natalee went over and introduced herself to VDS.
WHY would VDS sneak out of his house on a "dull, no action, Sunday night" unless he had met her earlier?