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finny
Posted on 06/19/2005 8:27:21 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Finny
![](http://www.weatherwars.info/images/pilotsview/32.jpg)
At low sun altitudes, contrails look like they are burning because they are highly reflective at that angle. Here we see persistent contrails, but highly reflective. Short contrail plus high altitude plane plus low sun would give you exactly what you saw.
To: chuckwalla
No, not a meteor, because it didn't burn out, and because it was very controlled and changed course, from north-west to north. What do you think of Kirkwood's suggestion that dry air at high altitudes could create appearance of burn because dry air wouldn't enable contrails to linger at all? In any case, whatever this was was very large and going very fast.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:00:17 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: FreedomFarmer
Did it resemble a classy green-eyed host around the sun?
![](http://timgaskin.homestead.com/files/Michaeljacksonpeterpan_lg.jpg)
I CAN FLY...
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:01:26 PM PDT
by
streetpreacher
(If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
To: GLH3IL
Wow...all he did was snap his fingers? Got ya trained it would seem ... He is indeed my most kind and worthy master. Although tonight I will probably have to sleep in the shed because I burned his dinner, as I was too busy trying to post this stuff on FR. Fortunately for me it was only the vegetables I had burned ... had I burned the meat, he would have beaten me before making me sleep in the shed.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:02:33 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: streetpreacher
Re that picture and your tag line.
You can count today as a success...
;^P
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:03:00 PM PDT
by
null and void
(You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
To: Bush gal in LA
I'll buy that theory!!! ;^)
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:03:03 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: Finny
---He is indeed my most kind and worthy master. Although tonight I will probably have to sleep in the shed because I burned his dinner, as I was too busy trying to post this stuff on FR. Fortunately for me it was only the vegetables I had burned ... had I burned the meat, he would have beaten me before making me sleep in the shed.---
thank goodness you didn't burn the meat.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:04:05 PM PDT
by
smonk
To: Black Tooth
They usually launch to the south, towards the south pacific. The oberver here apparently saw it heading north west, from his position which is south Vandenberg.Polar orbits are South-North axis oriented. Minuteman and Peacekeeper are West oriented. ICBM interceptors are now based at Vandenberg and Fort Greely AK.
If it was westward bound consider that.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:04:14 PM PDT
by
pfflier
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To: tubebender
Repeat: Not a launch. Am very familiar with VAFB launches, have seen dozens of them, this was not outgoing, but incoming, and it was not in the vicinity of VAFB launch trajectories.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:04:33 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: Finny
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:04:34 PM PDT
by
Baraonda
(Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
To: Kirkwood
![](http://www.weatherwars.info/images/pilotsview/25.jpg)
I just like this picture so I'm posting it. It does show however that contrails are not straight when they exit the engines, but are splayed out by the displacement of air around the plane. So under certain angles they can look v-shaped, especially when they are short due to dry air.
To: Finny
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:05:24 PM PDT
by
PeaceBeWithYou
(De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Baraonda
Have had that tagline for a very, very long time.
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:05:53 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:06:13 PM PDT
by
KneelBeforeZod
( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
To: Irving Two Smokes
Me too, except I'm given to understand that the Aurora has a "string-of-pearls" contrail due to it's pulse jet propulsion.
Of course, that could be total disinformation...
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:06:49 PM PDT
by
null and void
(You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
To: Finny
I've read through the whole thread, and am inclied to take your observation seriously.
As a trained and experienced observer, I realize the impossibility of accurately estimating size, and speed when you know neither altitude nor horizontal distance, Having said that, do you have any feel for how far north it had traveled before it started its ?eastward? turn?
FWIW, have you observed a shuttle reentry or a SR-71 return from max altitude/speed? If so, how did it compare?
I know there are -- supposedly --no more SR-71s flying, but I seriously doubt that we haven't replaced the Blackbird and its capabilities with something with better performance...
Please keep us informed if you learn more about this phenomenon!
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:06:57 PM PDT
by
TXnMA
(ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
To: LachlanMinnesota
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posted on
06/19/2005 10:07:06 PM PDT
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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