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WWII-era Propaganda Posters (image intensive)--where are ours?
various | 1941-1945 | United States of America

Posted on 06/19/2005 8:20:00 PM PDT by dufekin



TOPICS: Unclassified; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: art; posters; propaganda; wwii
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To: Jim Noble
Why not do it?

Because we can win triumph without it.

181 posted on 06/20/2005 8:07:02 AM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: Petronski

Howard Christy was a World War ONE artist. Note the earlier Navy uniform. The pretty girl probably dates from around 1917 or 1918.


182 posted on 06/20/2005 8:08:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dufekin

183 posted on 06/20/2005 8:09:05 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yes. The woman in the painting represents a passenger of the Lusitania. The painting was requested up thread.


184 posted on 06/20/2005 8:11:29 AM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: dufekin; All
Of course everybody recognizes the Norman Rockwell "Four Freedoms" posters . . .

But did you recognize the Thomas Hart Benton of Hirohito "behold a sower went forth to sow"?

Some very good artists participated in the war effort back then. Where are they now?

185 posted on 06/20/2005 8:14:58 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Republicanprofessor

There is some beautiful art in those posters, professor. On a lot of levels.

I suppose one reason we don't see much of that kind of thing at the moment is that most artists consider themselves part of the Left, which places America in the category of evil.

I took a painting class last year at the local university - the last day of class was capped with a slide show which featured some of the professor's work. The last thing he showed was his protest against the Iraq war. Of course he was protesting the suffering we caused the Iraqis by freeing them from Saddam, not the suffering caused by Saddam or by the radical Islamists.

Sad thing was that the prof is a truly nice person and a good painter. Of course, in true 60's fashion, he didn't really teach too much, though the critiques were fun.


186 posted on 06/20/2005 8:15:41 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Petronski
That's a different painting (the one that is captioned "ENLIST"), not by Christy but by Fred Spear, an artist with whom I'm unfamiliar.

The young lady in the "Gee I wish I were a man" poster is a classic "Christy girl". She was as famous in her day as the "Gibson girl", who predated her slightly.

187 posted on 06/20/2005 8:20:02 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dufekin
Great post.
I was struck by this one in particular:

Is that by Thomas Hart Benton? It certainly looks like his style.

188 posted on 06/20/2005 8:23:09 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: dufekin
Here's mine for the day:


189 posted on 06/20/2005 8:27:19 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Constitution Day; dufekin
See post 185. GMTA.

I don't know for a FACT that it's Benton, but I'd bet a steak dinner on it. His style is absolutely unmistakeable, and pretty hard to imitate (Jackson Pollock for one was totally unable to do so.)

190 posted on 06/20/2005 8:50:10 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Constitution Day
Tracked it to the source (a U.S. Archive exhibition).

It is, in fact, Benton.

This Is Nazi Brutality

191 posted on 06/20/2005 8:52:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Constitution Day; dufekin
I didn't catch the Ben Shahn though.

I'm a fan of his work, especially his commentary on Prohibition and Sacco and Vanzetti (although I disagree with him completely on the guilty/innocence of those two).

192 posted on 06/20/2005 8:53:55 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dufekin
If you want to win this war, then you have to make it a national effort. We need the public to ration, save gas and rubber and newspapers and animal fat, we need the public to buy war bonds, we need to shut down consumer manufacturing and devote all of our factory space to wartime goods, etc.

Most people today, dont even realize that we are in a war, and no one, over here, seems to be affected by it, or care about it, either.

We need to secure our borders as we did in the 1940's, etc.

If you dont get the average public person involved, and interested in the war as they were in 1942, then you will lose support for the war, and you will lose it.

193 posted on 06/20/2005 8:56:21 AM PDT by SandyB
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To: SandyB
Most people today, dont even realize that we are in a war, and no one, over here, seems to be affected by it, or care about it, either.

I agree, but who is to blame for that though? 9/11 should be worth almost a lifetime of good propaganda, but our government seems to be content to not even talk about it anymore.

When directly asked a couple of years ago what the American people can do to contribute, the administration's response basically boiled down to "go shopping and don't worry your pretty little heads about anything".

194 posted on 06/20/2005 9:00:06 AM PDT by jpl
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To: jpl
Everyone is to blame - but mostly bush and congress.

In ww2, everyone was involved, and everyone felt a part of the war even on the homefront. We all shared in sacrificing to win the war.

One of the big problems with vietnam, was that no one over here really cared about the war, with a guns and butter policy. Johnsons big mistake was to allow americans over here to not be invovled in the war, and bush is making the same mistake. if you are not involved, then eventually you dont care anymore.

Until and unless average citizens over here feel a part of the war effort, then why should there be continuing support for it?

195 posted on 06/20/2005 9:15:28 AM PDT by SandyB
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To: t_skoz

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196 posted on 06/20/2005 9:19:50 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for the link! His style really is unmistakable.

Re: the Ben Shahn, I should have caught that in the "French Workers" one.


197 posted on 06/20/2005 9:28:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Some very good Shahn stuff out there . . .

The infamous duo from Dedham . . .

198 posted on 06/20/2005 9:36:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Constitution Day
What I meant to add about Ben Shahn . . .

He was a Jewish immigrant from Lithuania, very much a radicalized Socialist (even pro-anarchist) in the old European mold. He severely criticized America in his art, not just Sacco & Vanzetti and Prohibition but in many other works.

Yet when the chips were down and the U.S. was at war, he stepped up and helped with the war effort.

How many frankly Socialist artists today would step up to the plate like that?

199 posted on 06/20/2005 9:40:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dufekin

200 posted on 06/20/2005 10:03:49 AM PDT by My2Cents
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