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To: robertpaulsen; don-o; CHARLITE; Nihao
First of all, there was conflicting evidence: other family members said that she favored continued rehabilitative efforts for even for severley brain-damaged people. ("Where there's life, there's hope.")

Second, the case she supposedly commented upon to Joan Schiavo was significantly different from her own situation years later. For one thing, she was not in a coma. Her condition was either Very Low Consciousness or PVS, neither of which was ruled out by the autopsy.

She was also not on wires, monitors and ventilators, was not being "kept alive by machines." She was young (41), strong, not in pain, and not terminal. All she needed was ordinary care: assisted nutrition/hydration. So if she expressed the view attested by some, that she would want to "be allowed to die a natural death," she was not asking to be starved/dehydrated. Neither you, nor I, nor any judge or panel of judges in the world can deny fluids to a dependent and disabled person and call their resulting demise a "natural death."

Third, the judge's decision that there was "clear and convincing" evidence of Terri's desire to be dehydrated to death, obviously was not clear and convincing to many people who knew Terri. It was not even "clear and convincing" to Michael Schiavo until after he received --- from a medical malpractice settlement --- a substantial amount of money which he swore he would use for his dabled wife's long-term care!

Not only her parents, but her brother and sister, half a dozen nurses, lawyers, clergy, could have testified ---- if he she's had a trial de novo --- that she exhibited a will to live.

Fourth, it is outrageous that a county probate judge can order the death of any citizen who has not been convicted of a crime. You realize of course, that in the end this was done on a court order. Technically, it wasn't even Michael Schiavo's decision in the end. It was an actual court order by Judge Greer.

This was a "first." And a precedent: one that must not be allowed to stand.

139 posted on 06/21/2005 6:03:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Terri Schiavo. Could have been me. Could have been you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Then why don't you try what I suggested here?

Or perhaps you can answer post # 42. I have yet to get a syraight answer to that question.

140 posted on 06/21/2005 6:08:50 AM PDT by KDD (http://www.gardenofsong.com/midi/popgoes.mid)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Technically, it wasn't even Michael Schiavo's decision in the end. It was an actual court order by Judge Greer."

Well, at least you got this one right.

The rest of your post is regurgitated propaganda which you obviously took at face value rather than taking the time to look up the truth. For example:

"other family members said that she favored continued rehabilitative efforts for even for severley brain-damaged people."

The only family member who testified that Terri would want to live under her current condition was her mother. Not "other family members". Her mother. Period.

Furthermore, under cross examination, her mother admitted that Terri must have been preteen when she made her comment. The judge, correctly, did not accept the comments of an 11-year-old as reflective of her desire.

The judge was charged by the State of Florida with finding "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes. If Terri would want the "tubes and everything" pulled if she were in a coma, then certainly she would want them pulled if she were in a PVS. Don't give me this "but Terri wasn't in a coma crap".

162 posted on 06/21/2005 6:44:23 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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