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To: Drago

Hydrogen FUEL cells are used....Check out Ballard Fuel Cells here: http://www.ballard.com/be_informed/fuel_cell_technology


23 posted on 06/19/2005 7:20:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Yep...that is how they make the electricity to run the car in a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle. Still need to make the hydrogen however.
http://www.ballard.com/be_informed/frequently_asked_questions/mcormack-27_0410151340-507

You can also burn hydrogen directly in an internal-combustion engine, as in this hybrid one:
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/06/10/HydrogenElectricCar/


36 posted on 06/19/2005 7:56:00 PM PDT by Drago
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To: hoosiermama; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp
I looked into Ballard (BLDP) once. It appeared to be a pump and dump stock, utilizing taxpayer and shareholder monies to enrich its management (Mossadiq Umedaly and Firoz Rasul) with megamillions in salaries and stock options and leaving stockholders with accumulated deficits. I also found they were cozying up to Arnold looking for a piece of the hydrogen highway. Here's some of what I found.

Ballard and the great Fuel $ell $aga

The basic concept for fuel cells was discovered in 1839.

But 164 years later, the alluring prospect of replacing the internal combustion engine with devices that generate electricity from an environmentally benign chemical reaction still lies far in the future.

In the meantime, though, Firoz Rasul found a way to make lots of money from fuel-cell technology. The former head of fuel-cell pioneer Ballard Power Systems Inc. of Burnaby, B.C., who stepped down as CEO last month but remains as chairman, sold or transferred some $30 million worth of Ballard shares to family trusts and charities over the past three years.

During his 15-year tenure as CEO, Rasul was also handsomely compensated in salary and bonuses, managing at least once to appear atop the list of Canada's best-paid CEOs. In 2001, he collected $9.9 million in pay. Rasul's haul in 2002 was $5.9 million. Included in that sum, Ballard said last week, was a tripling in Rasul's bonus because of his success in meeting goals he had set for himself, such as the development of a five-year business plan.

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Enriching themselves - CEOs often pocket outrageous sums regardless of how company performs
Toronto Star, Apr. 27, 2002
Firoz Rasul heads Ballard Power Systems Inc. of Burnaby, B.C., a developer of fuel cells that has never turned an annual profit. The publicly traded firm has racked up total losses of $196.6 million (Canadian) in the past three years, culminating in a loss of $96.2 million last year alone. Just the same, Rasul last year earned a bonus of $191,314 on top of his salary of $551,248, even as the company was laying off 200 employees in a productivity drive.
Waiting for the revolution
Globe and Mail - Report on Business, January 31, 2003
On June 8, 1993, Geoffrey Ballard unveiled a technology that could change the world, and the world came to watch. Ballard’s B.C. company had built a bus that ran not on fossil fuel, but on the stuff of science fiction: the clean, pure energy of hydrogen fuel cells. Ballard toasted the assembled dignitaries and press with a beverage that was, remarkably, also the single emission from the bus’s tailpipe: water. This was Ballard Power Systems Inc., the company that would take on Big Oil, the company that would eradicate smog, the company that would trademark the phrase “Power to Change the World.” Not wanting to miss the sea change, auto giants Ford and Daimler-Benz bought in. “We expect to sell 100,000 fuel-cell cars by 2004,” one Daimler executive proclaimed in 1997.

“The Next Intel?” headlines asked, and the company repeated them with glee. Firoz Rasul, the Ballard Power CEO who would coax the company’s market cap to top $18 billion, spoke with confidence: “There will be no internal combustion engines left.” The stock soared, the press raved, the profits were coming, the revolution was at hand.

So unless you’re still drinking Ballard’s tailpipe cocktail, it’s bewildering to see the same company these days. Fuel-cell cars on the road? A handful. Profits? Patience, the company counsels. Ballard stock? Tank city.

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Then, in June of 1993, just as Geoffrey Ballard was showing off the bus project-just as the world heard of an audacious, but seemingly plausible, plan to power automobiles with hydrogen-Rasul took the company public. The stock debuted at $8. The IPO brought Ballard Power Systems $15 million.

It helped that at the time of the IPO, automakers were starting to sweat a 1990 regulation passed by California’s Air Resources Board dictating that by 2003, 10% of cars sold in the state-North America’s largest auto market-would have to be zero-emission.

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The emboldened company brought in new executives with auto experience. “By the end of 1999, we will be able to produce a commercially viable fuel-cell car,” said Mossadiq Umedaly, a Ballard VP who was a friend of Rasul’s dating back to mountaineering camp in their teens. Rasul said that consumers would be walking into showrooms within 10 years to choose among fuel-cell cars. And he forecast the time frame when his company could turn profitable: 2001 or 2002.

Ballard Pays Higher Bonuses, Salaries.
Electric Vehicle Online Today, April 23, 1999 pNA
Full Text: COPYRIGHT 1999 Environmental Information Networks, Inc.
Former chief financial officer of Ballard Power Systems, Inc. Mossadiq Umedaly received $22.5 million when he left the company last year. Other executives have scored big as well, including president and CEO Firoz Rasul who received a bonus that exceeded the company's profit last year.

Umedaly left Ballard last June because of a possible change in control of the company following a 25 percent purchase by Daimler-Benz. Most of his compensation came from exercising stock options. Umedaly picked up $20.96 million from exercising more than 513,000 options to buy Ballard shares. In addition, he received termination payment of more than $1 million, salary of $96,133, a bonus of $449,735 and other annual compensation of $15,676.

Rasul took home a salary of $198,965, a bonus of $833,757, other annual compensation of $16,403 and additional compensation of $13,500. The bonus consisted of $10,182 in cash and $823,575 from a share distribution program that forms the basis for executive bonuses.

However, profit for the fuel cell manufacturing company dropped to $800,000 on one cent per share last year, down from $2 million or four cents per share a year earlier. At the same time, bonuses rose by triple-digit percentages for all of the company's senior executives except Umedaly.

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Hydrogen fuel-cell goals moving closer, industry insiders believe
Steve Mertl, Canadian Press (CP), March 7, 2004

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Coincidentally, Firoz Rasul, chairman of Ballard Power Systems Ltd., the Vancouver fuel-cell pioneer, this year took over the rotating chairmanship of the California Fuel Cell Partnership, the small but influential business-government coalition that helps set the development agenda globally.

Rasul says he expects to meet with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger next month about beginning the $200-million project, a key piece of infrastructure needed to make fuel cell-powered vehicles practical.


61 posted on 06/19/2005 8:57:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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