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Doctor: Schiavo Autopsy Conclusions Flawed
NewsMax ^ | 6/19/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 06/19/2005 6:04:50 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Smartaleck

Well that totally ignores the fact that any would care whether Terri was killed or not. It is all about a paltry 700000.

Then why do you think they spent years in courts? Trying to get 200-300,000?

Most readers here know that the relationship changed when it dawned on the parents that Michael was now making claims that Terri did not want to live with "tubes". Why had he not mentioned in the 7 years prior? And, that meant, that Michael was taking steps to withdraw those tubes.

Any parent knows that the death of the daughter is the prime consideration here - not the money. The money was when the turn in direction occurred by Michael. It was not the Schlinders and you full well know it.

And before you spring back with more assaults on those parents ------ even if it had been about the money - it does not matter a whit because they still do not have to agree to allow a son-in-law to kill a daughter.

Now - please wake up and get over the obsession with wonderful Micheal. We all have made our judgement of Michael by his actions over the last years. We don't need word games.


361 posted on 06/20/2005 1:52:48 PM PDT by ClancyJ (McCain: "As far as the criticism is concerned, none of us care about public opinion.")
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To: bvw

Why did you put that first sentence in quotes? I certainly didn't use that language, but it's most interesting that you did.

And, btw, do you think that people who don't wish to be kept alive in this way are committing suicide? It's your right to think that, but I'm certainly glad that thus far in this country we are all allowed self determination vs. determination by a few who are pushing the pro life agenda beyond the original life for the innocent unborn.


362 posted on 06/20/2005 1:53:14 PM PDT by Peach
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To: spectre
You're as paranoid as the rest of the Terribots.

Btw, I didn't call you any names.

363 posted on 06/20/2005 1:53:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Smartaleck

I specifically mentioned the neck because there was no report of neck injury in the autopsy report, Smarta**. Go back and read my posts and ensuing exchanges. And don't mischaracterize them again.


364 posted on 06/20/2005 1:54:30 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off the cuff com findings.ments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Being paranoid is calling someone a name...it's a condition..like PVS.


365 posted on 06/20/2005 1:54:54 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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Let's try that again..."Being paranoid ISN'T calling someone a name"...there.


366 posted on 06/20/2005 1:55:49 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: spectre
Being paranoid is calling someone a name...it's a condition..like PVS.

No. "Terribots" is name calling and worthy of a playground. But now that you point it out, you're namecalling above is childish too. I can only conclude that you have nothing to share but insults. Hope the rest of your day is a good one.

367 posted on 06/20/2005 2:00:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You believe that Terri was blind, in a PVS with no hope of recovery? Answer the question.
368 posted on 06/20/2005 2:01:16 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Peach
>> He claimed to have helped patients like Terri. He couldn't back it up in court.

I will look at the trial transcript when I have a chance.

369 posted on 06/20/2005 2:02:26 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: spectre
You can be considered paranoid whether or not the paranoia is based in reality.

Thus, to call someone paranoid tells us little about a person's true frame of mind.

370 posted on 06/20/2005 2:02:31 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off the cuff com findings.ments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: blueriver

"Let's see her attack occurred in Feb of 1990 - he got the money from the lawsuit in 1992- sounds about right that he would have been a phony during that period of time, so much so that the Schindlers were completely taken in by him. Soon as he goot the money his true colors came through. You people amaze me no end when you defend this man."

"Schiavo clash is rooted in cash
The dispute between Michael Schiavo and his in-laws began when Bob and Mary Schindler said he owed them money, court records show."

"Michael Schiavo sat by his brain-damaged wife, Terri, at a Largo nursing home as he studied for college classes. Schiavo had brought two dozen roses not long after a jury in a medical malpractice case awarded the couple about $1-million."

"Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, walked in. An argument started. With an exchange of heated words, some involving that money, Schiavo's close relationship with the Schindlers ended."

So it's your take only MS is motivated by money and the Schindlers aren't?
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/23/Tampabay/Schiavo_clash_is_root.shtml

Have you or anyone for that matter seen an accounting of all the funds that poured in to save her life?
Follow the money...
http://bbsnews.net/article.php?story=20050325224325468


371 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:12 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: spectre

How, pray tell, did father Pavone stretch the truth?


372 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:26 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off the cuff com findings.ments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: highball

I am advocating that man not initiate death, not kill, not judge the worth of another's life for the purpose of deciding whether to kill them or not.

You show the very same blank look of incomprehension that I saw on Juan's face as Brit Hume told him - "Juan - she was not dying". He just could not grasp the difference.

Apparently many here tend to ignore the fact that we are now allowing the state to willfully commit an action that will kill a sick one. This is not our historical action.

The laws have been altered by (WHO THE HECK KNOWS) to permit SOME to allow the removal from life of others.

This is what we call the first steps of nazism. We have the intelligence to recognize the dangers of this and we are speaking out forcefully against it and will continue to do so.

Why? Because I do not intend to quietly sit by while the America I grew up in is altered (BY LAWMAKING BY UNELECTED PERSONS INPUTTING THEIR VIEWS OF WHO GETS TO LIVE AND WHO DOES NOT GET TO LIVE) to totally change the country.

Anyone that does not understand this - in my opinion is blind, ignorant, or on the side of those allowing some to decide the death of others.

This is a travesty to our children and grandchildren and I intend to fight it.


373 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:36 PM PDT by ClancyJ (McCain: "As far as the criticism is concerned, none of us care about public opinion.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Name calling? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black about name calling in these threads, nothing is...I'm thrilled you don't want to discuss anything further with me. It makes my day..thank you.


374 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:51 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Smartaleck; Peach

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/30/Tampabay/Money_trail_leads_to_.shtml

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/11215317.htm

(These aren't the article you are talking about, but they are close.)


375 posted on 06/20/2005 2:04:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dave S
>> Then what do you think all this bullshit about Michael killing Terri does.

Actually, and in front of the whole world, he did kill her.

376 posted on 06/20/2005 2:05:05 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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To: BykrBayb

In fact the stated laws of Florida have the statement that "these laws in no way mean that euthanasia is supported" (or words to that effect).

A bunch of legal cover-up allowing state sponsored killing and it is not euthanasia? Yeah right.


377 posted on 06/20/2005 2:06:06 PM PDT by ClancyJ (McCain: "As far as the criticism is concerned, none of us care about public opinion.")
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To: Peach

Thought you might like to add this to your knowledge base.

http://reports.tbo.com/reports/schiavo/

Or all the news articles, PDF's etc here.
http://reports.tbo.com/reports/schiavo/relatedstories.html#orders

TBO seems to be the net version of the St. Pete Times.


378 posted on 06/20/2005 2:08:14 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Howlin

Saved and thank you.


379 posted on 06/20/2005 2:08:48 PM PDT by Peach
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To: T'wit

I invite you to do that. You will be embarrassed for Dr. H.


380 posted on 06/20/2005 2:09:25 PM PDT by Peach
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