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To: Perdogg
Can you remember how Danny Sullivan was promoted by the media and agents...? Sex symbol..what is good for one Danny is good for the other Dannie. :)

I think she has the right stuff and will be a force to be reckoned with. Marketing is marketing. As a woman who has lived through the "liberating of women" days, I find it a real joke when someone complains that Danica should not have great photos of her done.

I think back to when the women's lib movement started. All women wanted to be taken seriously so consequently, anyone who was beautiful and promoted themselves as such were harassed. But look what has happened...we now have Paris Hilton, Pam Anderson, Brittney, Lil' Kim, J-LO, and hundreds of stars who promote themselves as sex symbols. ). As long as these folks are rich and call their own shots, it's OK to "sell out" to the sexy image. Right..... that is what it is all about ...selling...
I'm sorry, but as a woman, I've seen the times change and yet stay the same. The average looking woman is ignored and the sexy babe is adored and fawned over in the media. It really hasn't changed. The only real difference is smart talented and even unattractive folks have learned that getting a law degree or medical degree (for example) gets respect and can call their own shots. Beautiful young women will eventually learn that once they age, unless you have a successful business, talent (like race car driving), or come into large amounts of money; you are likely to be "invisible" to the world of men and media. Of course, those folks who find meaningful work, give of themselves to a higher calling will not give a damn about how the world seems them and will survive the aging process.
But that reality is not what we teach our daughters. If you shop like Paris, dance like Brittney, have boobs like Pamela, hair like Jennifer and have a good self image (look good in the mirror) you will live happily ever after. Now we have come a long way baby..now haven't we? hmm?

BTW, I'm 53, attractive, and married 35 years with two wonderful grown boys. I was raised pre lib, lived during lib and learned life is not a race for independence but a race for loving, caring, sharing, giving, learning, knowing all is really in God's hands. He made the young beautiful (mating) and old wise for a reason. :)

Have a great day and enjoy the pictures of Danica, she's young, talented, beautiful, has guts, is smart and just plain cool. She's earned my respect but will improve as a driver and a person with more experience and time.
24 posted on 06/19/2005 8:58:22 PM PDT by Tess1 (United We Stand, Divided We Fall)
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To: Tess1
I like what you say and so much of it really applies to all regardless of gender-sex.
I can't reply to all you have there.. a post become a snapshot.

Is this when we 'bump' or 'ping' for later?

But still, a little respond to a few sentences.


As you say, the more things change the more they stay the same (I paraphrased what you said).

Anyway IMO, WAY to much is made of these false (IMO) symbols &barriers like car racing. Now we find out lots and lots of people can do it(we really knew it all along). I'll ask a question How many of us were really snookered by all of it?

As far as Danica.. I don't know if she really has it for a racing career and I don't think thats what shes in it for, IMO she wants to morph it into more things (ala the Madonna Hilton model) which was really not that model at all, its marketing as you say.
I mean who has ever seen any 105lb man succeed in this kind of competition? Lets take the RAHAL TEAM-CAR OUT IT

I don't speak from 0 knowledge. I've probably went much closer to 'the edge' totally out here on my own than our young Danica ever has. Here is one among hundreds of samples
Imagine an Isle of Mann type motorcycle race. The course looks like I-5 north of Redding -- south of Mt Shasta, circa May 1985 (IE; no traffic). Rounding the side of a mountain downhill left hand turn on a wide fast sweeper(mild off camber) at 130. The heat has caused a mini glacier to melt creating a spontaneous large creek to flow across I-5N roadway. You hit it at speed.. of course at this speed hydroplaning is inevitable, the 900 Ninja goes sideways, it hits dry pavement again.. hot tires hookup U swap-ends approx 5 more times. U Never go down U never stop.. YAHOO!!

Finally you mention all this talk about womens body parts and if they look like a celebrity. As far as I am concerned, I like her t*** b**** a** hair lips eyes, what shes all about, --HER-- because its HER!! Its the woman I see at the mall, the grocery store, and so on in my mundane life

Only I don't know how to convert a conversation about a eggplant into a date!!!

Chariot
26 posted on 06/19/2005 11:37:31 PM PDT by chariotdriver (I feel more like I do now than I did a few minutes ago)
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To: Tess1
Tess1 great post.
She isn't marketing herself nearly as well as our pro athletes do, and people are still complaining. I hope she kicks their butts in F1 and gives all the smucks more to complain about.
27 posted on 06/20/2005 2:26:14 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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To: Tess1

Thanks! I see your point!


28 posted on 06/20/2005 4:17:58 AM PDT by Perdogg (Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA) for President - 2008)
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To: Tess1

I like the fact that she's engaged to guy my age. Gives average guys like me hope in this world! ;)


33 posted on 06/20/2005 5:15:41 AM PDT by Perdogg (Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA) for President - 2008)
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To: Tess1
If you shop like Paris, dance like Brittney, have boobs like Pamela, hair like Jennifer and have a good self image ...

Unless it's covering her butt, I don't think Jennifer's hair gets noticed much, at least by men. Seriously, good post, and independence is overrated.

36 posted on 06/20/2005 6:43:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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