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1 posted on 06/19/2005 2:01:09 PM PDT by Wiz
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When is the last time the administration told the public what could happen if we fail in Iraq? That has been one of the big problems with how they have been handeling the PR side of things IMHO. The American public need to know that they will get hit again if we leave Iraq, but as of right now most think we are just there right now to bring democracy to them.


2 posted on 06/19/2005 2:03:57 PM PDT by jmc1969
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When you listen to the DemocRATS and their toadies in the DNC's MSM, it always turns out to be a disaster. Right now, the 'RATS and the MSM are wanting to create another "fall of Saigon" scenario. If we let them get away with that again, America deserves all of the bad things that will result in our cutting and running a second time. Unlike Vietnam, this time, the enemy will follow our soldiers home. You can take that to the bank.
4 posted on 06/19/2005 2:17:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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The Withdrawal Method never seems to work.


5 posted on 06/19/2005 2:18:31 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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I just read this on an Iraqi blog today. It's interesting to read an Iraqi's point of view and I think all Americans should read it:

Some Congressmen are calling for a timetable to pull out from Iraq. I believe it is a wrong message in a wrong time to be sent to the insurgents. Logically, the insurgents have no chance to win the struggle with the MNF on the ground, but they could if they sought humbug. For that they are working hard to obtain support from anyone. The insurgents are trying to gain aid from the Arab League, Islamic states, EU, UN, neighboring countries, media, clerics, organizations, individuals…etc. President Bush once said that if his homeland was invaded, he would resist the invaders fiercely. The insurgents & their mouthpieces are tenaciously clinging to what Mr. Bush said to justify their crimes. The insurgency consists of several factions. The baathists & saddamians embody themselves in these factions. The baathists & saddamians are the most powerful group among them. Pulling out from Iraq will cause these groups to appear on the ground & regain power. The baathists are good in deception, so they are expected to turn against their allies, of the present time, and wipe them out.

The first consequence of such wrong message is telling the insurgents that they are doing well by killing American soldiers. You (the insurgents) are hurting us (the Americans). This will encourage the insurgents to put more pressure on the Americans by killing more soldiers. Is it worth killing soldiers to achieve an electoral aim? I don't know what the real intention of declaring such a statement is, but I'm trying to show an Iraqi perspective. Someone, whom I spoke to, viewed it as another let down by the Americans just like the one of 1991 when they pulled out leaving the Iraqis alone to be torn apart by Saddam after the popular uprising of March 1991. Pulling out now may leave the Iraqis alone facing the fundamentalists, insurgents, terrorists, baathists, saddamians…etc.

I agree completely with President Bush in his persistence to fulfill the mission when he insisted in his State of the Union Address on February 2, 2005 when he said:
"We will not set an artificial timetable for leaving Iraq, because that would embolden the terrorists and make them believe they can wait us out…"
and
"… all Iraqis can be certain: While our military strategy is adapting to circumstances, our commitment remains firm and unchanging. We are standing for the freedom of our Iraqi friends…"

He confirmed it again in his Radio Address of this week It seems that Iraqis should trust President Bush since he speaks honestly about what should be done in Iraq. May God bless him. I hope that the American citizens won't stop backing President Bush in his policy in Iraq.

(Posted 6/19/05 by Ibn_Alrafidain in Iraq)

7 posted on 06/19/2005 2:22:14 PM PDT by saquin
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"" Americans who are telling pollsters they want U.S. troops out of Iraq could see some nasty consequences if President Bush heeded their wishes, foreign policy experts warn."


Starting with:

1. Taliban type govt in Iraq
2. Loss of US credibility on WOT ( who will ever stick their necks of out the USA ever again?)
3. Same tactics used against US in Afghanistan to force US withdrawl there.
4. Gen Musaraff assassinated, Taliban govt in Paki with Nukes (war with India)
5. Other gulf countries threatened by Iraqi Taliban like govt
6. Iran hegemony in gulf
7. resumption if homocide bombs against Israelis
8. Somalia withdrawl inspired Bin Laden to commit 9-11, what would Iraq withdrawl (read DEFEAT) inspire?
9. Al Qaeda relocated to Iraq. Afterall it would be the safest place for them


American dont realise that the loss in Vietnam in 1975 inspired the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan and support communists in Latin America. Also inspired Iran to take hostafes in 1979.


14 posted on 06/19/2005 3:18:20 PM PDT by atlanta67
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"Americans who are telling pollsters they want U.S. troops out of Iraq could see some nasty consequences if President Bush heeded their wishes ..."


I believe this is why President Bush doesn't govern using polls.


26 posted on 06/19/2005 5:50:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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